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Extended family treated as family

by kestrellyn Posted 21st Apr 2018 at 3:59 AM - Updated 17th Nov 2018 at 5:32 AM by kestrellyn : Changes required
47 Comments / replies (Who?) - 13 Feedback Posts, 10 Thanks Posts
Do you ever hate how second cousins have no problems dating each other, or how great-grandparents can't encourage and family-kiss their great-grandchildren?

This hack causes the following relationships to be recognized as family for the purposes of social interactions:
  • Second cousins (people whose parents are first cousins)
  • First cousins once removed (your first cousin's children, or your parents' first cousins)
  • Great-grandparents and great-grandchildren
  • Great-aunts/uncles (your grandparents' siblings) and grand-nieces/nephews (your siblings' grandchildren)

For these relations, there will be no romantic interactions available, but there will be family kiss/encourage interactions. Pescado's autosoc can still be used in "romanticate" mode with them, but it will be unable to queue actual romantic interactions. Interactions with extended family members do not satisfy "talk with a relative", "relative gets married" etc. wants, they are not taken into account when deciding if it is possible to have a family reunion (for performance reasons), and they will appear without the family icon and possibly with a chemistry icon in the relationships tab, but other than that they are treated as family.

If you want only great-grandparents/grandchildren and great-aunts/uncles and grand-nieces/nephews to be considered family, use extendedfamilypartial.zip instead. Don't install both files.

Hack Compatibility Note: This hack modifies four existing global BHAVs and adds five new global BHAVs, in the range from 0x701 to 0x705 (extendedfamilypartial only includes 0x703-0x705); any hack that also adds global BHAVs in this range will conflict with this one, potentially very badly depending on load order and what exactly the BHAVs in the other hack do. Check with HCDU, no conflicts with this hack are expected/ok. This hack is completely incompatible with the InTeenimator, as it adds global BHAVs in this range (and also in practically every other available range, as far as I can tell). This hack also modifies three relationship-checking BHAVs in group 0x7F739728, and two other BHAVs in that group that were causing "too many iterations" errors when calling the global BHAVs, which were changed to use the Relationship primitive instead, with no change to their functions.

Game Compatibility Note: In theory, this should be compatible with any game configuration. The main potential problem is "too many iterations" errors, which is what happens when the game decides that it has encountered an infinite loop after many BHAVs have been called. I have complicated the family checks, but not by much, and a lower tolerance for "too many iterations" may be offset by the fact that early versions of the game had many fewer wants and fears that necessitated iterative checks over every sim in the hood (for example, neither of the checks I had to change are even used in the base game).

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
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extendedfamily.zip | Treats all extended family as family

Size: 1.4 KB · Downloads: 39,569 · 21st Apr 2018
1.4 KB 39,569 21st Apr 2018
extendedfamilypartial.zip | Treats only great-grandparents, great-grandchildren, great-aunts/uncles and grand-nieces/nephews as family

Size: 1.1 KB · Downloads: 8,927 · 21st Apr 2018
1.1 KB 8,927 21st Apr 2018
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Alchemist
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#2 Old 21st Apr 2018 at 5:43 AM
Thank you so much for this. It will be easier now to see who's family of whom. I have second cousins who are really family to me. Also grandaunts and uncles. So thanks. I love it!
Lab Assistant
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Instructor
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#3 Old 21st Apr 2018 at 11:42 AM
Great Job! Thanks a lot <3
Lab Assistant
#4 Old 21st Apr 2018 at 1:49 PM
Thank you for share this, is very useful!
Test Subject
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#5 Old 21st Apr 2018 at 8:45 PM
Great job!!!
Test Subject
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#6 Old 22nd Apr 2018 at 12:40 AM
BLESS you! Always hated Sims being able to flirt with people not that far away on their family tree, I swear lmao. Thank you so much!
Inventor
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#7 Old 22nd Apr 2018 at 8:55 AM
I've already downloaded this from MATY years ago (from the comments at inflawsfix, it seems to be the same version?), but I'll leave a thanks post here too because words still can't express how much this has brought some needed changes in my game especially when paired with inlawsfiix - I appreciate that it incorporates great-grandparents and great-grandchildren and great-aunts/uncles and grand-nieces/nephews yet there's a version to allow distant relationships between cousins.
Scholar
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#8 Old 22nd Apr 2018 at 4:15 PM
Thank you this is great!
Test Subject
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#9 Old 22nd Apr 2018 at 7:41 PM
God Bless I Needed This In My Life As Im Family Tree Player!
Field Researcher
#10 Old 23rd Apr 2018 at 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sketching
I've already downloaded this from MATY years ago (from the comments at inflawsfix, it seems to be the same version?), but I'll leave a thanks post here too because words still can't express how much this has brought some needed changes in my game especially when paired with inlawsfiix - I appreciate that it incorporates great-grandparents and great-grandchildren and great-aunts/uncles and grand-nieces/nephews yet there's a version to allow distant relationships between cousins.


So you're having no problems using this with inlawsfix?
Theorist
Original Poster
#11 Old 23rd Apr 2018 at 12:43 AM
There shouldn't be any problems using the two mods together, they modify different BHAVs. I use both myself.
Mad Poster
#12 Old 29th Apr 2018 at 11:16 PM
I'm having problems with your mod, namely when I mouse over a sim, any sim, in any neighbourhood, it gives me an Undefined Transition jump bug and I have to reset the sim. This happens if they are the ACTIVE sim but if I click on a non-active sim there's no jump bug. However, moving somebody into the family will cause them to jump and jump and jump until I have to delete them. Pets too have this bug. I am also using your In-Laws Fix.

It also conflicts with inTeen's terminate pregnancy option as it refuses to let me do that now.

I have all EP's and SP's and these cause problems in a CC-less folder for me and with or without inTeen (inTeen is not the main problem I'm having).

I can use the MATY version but I don't regularly use it and just was testing.

This is part of the error log (the relevant part):

Build: 1.17.0.66
at Oct 11 2008,15:12:07

Object id: 202
name: E001_User00016 - Timothy
Stack size: 11
Error: Undefined Transition.
Iterations: 1
Frame 6:
Stack Object id: 202
Stack Object name: E001_User00016 - Timothy
Node: 11
Tree: id 696 name 'Family - Are We Blood Relatives?' version -32760
from global
Prim state: 0
Params: 202 202 Locals: 43 43
Frame 5:
Stack Object id: 202
Stack Object name: E001_User00016 - Timothy
Node: 0
Tree: id 1065 name 'Social - Romance - Disallow Due to Family Ties?' version -32759
from global
Prim state: 0
Params: Locals:
Frame 4:
Stack Object id: 202
Stack Object name: E001_User00016 - Timothy
Node: 36
Tree: id 1202 name 'Social - Interaction - TEST - specify adv adj' version -32755
from global
Prim state: 0
Params: 224 0 202 1 Locals: 1 65 100 40 100 16 51 1 1 1 1 1 0 1
Frame 3:
Stack Object id: 202
Stack Object name: E001_User00016 - Timothy
Node: 3
Tree: id 1088 name 'Social - Interaction - TEST' version -32752
from global
Prim state: 0
Params: 224 0 202 Locals:
Frame 2:
Stack Object id: 202
Stack Object name: E001_User00016 - Timothy
Node: 1
Tree: id 8401 name 'Social - Flirt - Caress - TEST' version -32749
from PersonGlobals
Prim state: 0
Params: 0 Locals: 224
Frame 1:
Stack Object id: 0
Node: 0
Tree: id -1 name 'No behavior' version 0
from
Prim state: 1
Params: Locals:
Frame 0:
Stack Object id: 0
Node: 0
Tree: id 4096 name 'Function - Main' version 2
from TemplatePerson
Prim state: 0
Params: Locals:


Angie/DS | Baby Sterling - 24/2/2014
This account is mostly used by my sons to download CC now, if you see me active, it's probably just them!
Theorist
Original Poster
#13 Old 30th Apr 2018 at 1:33 AM
This version isn't different than the MATY version. Its not compatible with InTeen, don't use it with that hack. Either InTeen, or something else must be overriding that function because I have no error transitions in it.
Mad Poster
#14 Old 30th Apr 2018 at 11:08 AM
I do have a question, was this made with UC or the discs because I know a lot of mods that are made with UC won't work for me for some reason.


Angie/DS | Baby Sterling - 24/2/2014
This account is mostly used by my sons to download CC now, if you see me active, it's probably just them!
Theorist
Original Poster
#15 Old 30th Apr 2018 at 8:36 PM
I never got the UC.
Trainee Moderator
staff: trainee moderator THANKS POST
#16 Old 20th May 2018 at 2:24 AM
What happens to a neighborhood if the mod is deleted?
Do the BHAV records affect the neighborhood in some way? I'm just asking because of the Super Duper Hug bug I once had.
Theorist
Original Poster
#17 Old 20th May 2018 at 2:29 AM
Nothing, except that you can now romance your extended family members. This mod doesn't add any new social interactions or tokens.
Inventor
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#18 Old 29th Jun 2018 at 6:04 AM
Very useful mod! Thank you for making this :DDD
Test Subject
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29th Jun 2018 at 3:22 PM
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Test Subject
#19 Old 29th Jun 2018 at 3:24 PM
I have a question (not about mod, but about a picture u used). How did u menage to not brake the realtionship of the death married couple? Or maybe u just fixed it in simPE? Im asking because I started using your mod after my married couple died and I dont know if its a part od mod or not. I would be glad to know how to do it :D
Theorist
Original Poster
#20 Old 29th Jun 2018 at 4:08 PM
I believe it's a mod by Pescado that does that, I think it's called marriage postmortem or something like that.
Test Subject
#21 Old 29th Jun 2018 at 6:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrellyn
I believe it's a mod by Pescado that does that, I think it's called marriage postmortem or something like that.

I couldn't find a mod like that for a long time... You are my hero dude!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#22 Old 7th Aug 2018 at 1:39 PM
I've been wanting this so badly, thanks!
Test Subject
#23 Old 5th Sep 2018 at 2:32 PM
Ive downloaded the mod but it isn't working in my game. Not sure if its because I'm using the super collection on a mac or if I'm doing something wrong. Please help
Theorist
Original Poster
#24 Old 5th Sep 2018 at 4:34 PM
Did you run HCDU to make sure there are no conflicts?
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kestrellyn also recommends you check the following:

Possibly also of interest: my inlaws fix, which prevents your sim's parents from inappropriately hitting on their child's new spouse.

Also of interest might be my found family hack, which allows you to treat anyone as family, no matter how or whether they are related.