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Lower Threshold for Parenthood Traits (Negative, Positive, Lifespan Flavors)

by tyjokr Posted 12th Dec 2017 at 9:07 PM - Updated 28th Aug 2021 at 10:03 AM by tyjokr : No update needed for 1.78.58
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No update needed for August patch 1.78.58
Originally this mod was intended to make it easier to raise children with negative traits (it is far too easy to raise well-adjusted children IMO), but I expanded the scope of the mod to account for different play styles.

What This Mod Does

Without this mod you need at least -90 in any character value to have a teen age up with a negative trait and at least 90 to have a teen age up with a positive trait. This mod lowers the required value for earning a Parenthood trait. There are multiple flavors that target only negative traits, only positive traits, and both.

What You Should Know

The amount of points a sim has in a given character value also affects their autonomy a bit. The default values for the different autonomy levels are as follows:

Very Positive: 90 to 100
Positive: 35 to 90
Negative: -35 to -90
Very Negative: -90 to -100

Certain traits also start you off with a certain amount of points in either direction of a character value. I changed the starting values of sims with the Evil and Insane traits in most of the flavors to be more difficult because those two traits are truly extreme and should require an immense effort on the part of the parents to balance them out.

Which Flavor Is Right For Me?

  • If you want traits to have a somewhat greater impact on character values then download the Impactful flavor.
  • If you think the game is too easy and want parenting to be harder then download one of the flavors that only lowers the threshold for negative traits.
  • If you think the game is too hard and want parenting to be easier then download one of the flavors that only lowers the threshold for positive traits.
  • If you want to make it easier to attain character traits in either direction then download the flavor that lowers the threshold for both positive and negative traits.
  • If you play on a shorter lifespan or just find it difficult in general to raise a sim with multiple character traits then download the flavor designed for shorter lifespans.

YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE ONE FLAVOR. Pick the best one for your play style.

Impactful Flavor

Negative Only Flavor 1

Negative Only Flavor 2

Positive Only Flavor 1

Positive Only Flavor 2

Negative and Positive Combined Flavor 1

Short Lifespans Flavor

Note: This mod does not change the UI. As demonstrated in the thumbnail image, the division between the light gray section (doesn't earn trait) and the dark gray section (earns trait) will change to the new threshold value. This may make it a bit harder to estimate what the current value of a character value is when using the mod, specifically the Flavor 2 versions. For example, if you use Negative Only Flavor 2, the big chunk of light gray on the negative side will appear to fill up very quickly as it ranges only from 0 to -10. Once it surpasses -10, the character value will appear to move much, much slower as the dark gray section will range from -10 all the way to -100.


This mod is compatible with mods that increase or decrease the rate at which you gain/lose character value points.

Do let me know any feedback.

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

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  • Anyone can use both .rar and .zip files easily! On Windows, use WinRAR.
  • If you don't have a Mods folder, just make one.
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Test Subject
Original Poster
#26 Old 16th Nov 2019 at 6:20 AM Last edited by tyjokr : 17th Nov 2019 at 9:02 PM.
Originally Posted by AithneS
Does anyone know if it works with the DU update...?
Edit: Seems to work for me... But maybe I'm just imagining it? At least it doesn't break anything or throw LEs.

I haven't had a chance to formally check it, but it is extremely unlikely that this mod will ever break your game if not updated. This mod technically hasn't needed an update since I first created it nearly 2 years ago. The XMLs this mod modifies are extremely isolated from the rest of the game's files and Maxis makes very little changes to them.
Lab Assistant
#27 Old 18th Nov 2019 at 6:25 PM
Lab Assistant
#28 Old 20th Apr 2020 at 2:32 AM
does this still work with the most recent patches?
Lab Assistant
#29 Old 26th May 2020 at 8:06 AM
thank you!!!
Test Subject
#30 Old 7th Jun 2020 at 1:33 PM
Does this work wth the Eco Lifestyle patch?
Test Subject
#31 Old 19th Sep 2020 at 5:39 PM
Is this being updated anymore?
Test Subject
Original Poster
#32 Old 22nd Oct 2020 at 6:50 AM
Originally Posted by lavav5
Is this being updated anymore?

Apologies, I got burnt out on TS4 for awhile and took some time away from the game.

This mod doesn't really require updating when a new patch drops as the XMLs this mod modifies are exclusive to the Parenthood game pack and the likelihood of EA/Maxis ever revisiting that pack is extremely low. I just checked and—as expected—after a full year of patches there is nothing for me to update. The mod is working just fine.
Lab Assistant
#33 Old 16th Dec 2020 at 5:37 AM
Is this compatible with the latest patch?
Test Subject
Original Poster
#34 Old 5th Mar 2021 at 10:29 PM
Originally Posted by ashlynette92
Is this compatible with the latest patch?

Yes it is.
Field Researcher
#35 Old 19th Mar 2021 at 5:18 AM
Can you make a version with -1 for negative trait and +1 for positive trait?

I love big families
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