i think in the main city, (which would have been built and restored a long time ago) should be filled, but in the new neighborhood in the valley, that can have more empty lots and homes, best of both worlds, then builders and players can use and appreciate it!


Just my two cents.

I agree with tyu, that sounds like a reasonable idea to keep the balance and please most peopel

No way.....did someone ACTUALLY agree with me! WOW! (: it seems like im usually the one with the different ideas, lol.

LOL yes tyu, thats usually the case, but i agree as well. the valley part looks like itd be the sort of place where outsiders would come to live and buy 'vacation' homes. where the town would be full of the old people who've lived there for generations :D

exactly. (:

Ok, I'm happy to go with the flow, lol! Just as long as I can have a spot for the starter I build a while ago.

Is the inside modern and up to date? Because if it is, it can go in the more middle/lower income area in the valley, as long as it still looks...expensive and nice! (:

Tyu.

Well, actually it looks like an old granny could live there. But I've build it way in the beginning and we decided to ad a lot for it at some point. It doesn't look expensive either, but I don't think there's a whole lot to expect for a budget under 16.500. You can see the pictures in the finished building section. The house is called Vita Semplice.

If you guys don't mind me asking... what is your vision of the area? I take it you all want it newer and more modern, but do you have any examples of what that may look like?

My 2nd recent upload, the mederterraniam on, (sorry cant spell) big and beautiful, upscale in the first row, like mansions, and maybe the second row smaller/but still look fancy, i can get more pics tomorrow. Im on my ipod, and its 2 am here.

again i agree with tyu. still warm colours, but just more modern and fresh, with bigger windows and stuff.

exactly, so we still have the charm of the Mediterranean homes, but the look of 21st century, ill get some pics....hold on. okay, here are the links,

http://www.johnhenryarchitect.com/M...nean%20Bred.jpg

http://www.johnhenryarchitect.com/M...l%20Classic.jpg

http://www.oneworldbuilders.com/ima...rraneanhome.jpg

http://www.dreamhomedesignusa.com/t...ean%20Villa.jpg

and for the more affordable area,

http://houses.forsalephilippines.co...nean-villas.jpg

http://www.arthurrutenberghomes.com...2F_elev_D_1.jpg

http://www.asis-leif.com/images/mediterranean_style.jpg

http://www.thehousedesigners.com/im.../rdfreemont.jpg


this is what i was thinking anyways....

Hahaha I actually made the second house on Sims 3!! But it was on my old PC
I'd totally build it again haha

that does not surprise me! It reminded me of you! (: lol.

Ok, thanks very much! That gives me a good vision of what you have in mind. Those houses all look very pretty. The first one looks very much like one of the port rose lots DD build.
I also like the 1st affordable home very much. I think it would be an excellent mini home. If it would be at all possible, I'd like to build in on a 10x10 lot.

Btw, some time back I started building a market for our town. Well, it's not actually a market, but one lot that holds a wine shop, bookstore and the rabbithole diner. It's on a 30x30 lot and might fit very well in the valley. I can modernise it a bit and then the sims that live there won't have to travel so far to eat and shop.

sounds great! Would it be WA only? or an Ambitions only download?

probs best to have it as a WA only, so it goes with everything else :D
bloody ambitions lol

Yes, it's WA only.

Sounds good, oh and rose i will upload my people when i have a hair that will fit our categorys perfectally,

tyu.

oh lol, thee 4th house i have actually made for TS3, aha, i made it for TS2 then recreated it for TS3, i totally forgot that it originated from that picture! http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=350288

DD, maybe you could place it in our world? with some cosmetic changes to make it unique?

Tyu.

I would be happy to rebuilt it closer to the picture, as over my developments it has kinda gone astray, in fact i could build this for my large lot next to yours!

That would be cool! except im not sure if it will fit on that lot, you will have to look at it.

That looks very beautiful DD! It would be great if you could rebuild it, de-californiarise it a little and up-mediterraniarize it some more, lol. But I don't have to tell you that 'coz you're an expert!

BTW, how many motherload mansions are you guys planning to build? Are these fishermen secretly going to sit on a pile of gold, lol.

lmao rose, not many, we had these 2 mansions reserved for a while, and i just haven't built mine yet

DD, I'm sorry.. I thought you guys were already talking about the valley area, lol. I was just curious how many mansions you had in mind there.

oh, hah, in the valley area....hmmm...as many as i can build? lol. i will play with the map and photo shop later, and make a little roomier layout with a 10X10 lot, are there any specific wants?

Tyu,

(remember, this is just an outline, so we know how many homes to build)

Hahaha, that's what I thought you'd say. You and Craig are going to fill the entire world up with mansions and nectaries, lol!
It's so sweet of you to leave me that 10x10 lot, hahaha. The shops I made will need a 30x30 lot somewhere and the 10x10 will be for that little house you showed in the picture. Just have a look where you think they will fit.

Anyway, I think a financial overview of our families might be handy before we start filling that space up.

So far we don't have any poor sims finished yet. Maggie and I are making 2 families, where we're trying to get the: "They are Poor" notification. It might make sense to have families in all catagories.
I don't know what the exact budgets are, but this is what came up with:

Poor - houses below 20.000
Average - houses from 20.000 - 40.000
Low Middle Class Income - 40.000 - 60.000
Middle Income - 60.000 - 80.000
High Income - 80.000 - 100.000
Rich - 100.000 - infinit

Do these numbers make sense? I have no idea what the exact numbers are to get the poor/rich notification. In the test game I'm playing, the Ventura family are already rich, so I assumed the numer would be above 100.000

looks good, the only problem i see is that 80,000 dollars, if they are high income, should live in a high income house, and im not sure what there houses would look like...

haha, (: i would def. fill the world up with them, sounds good, would you be willing to do 3 of the 10X10 lots? just copy and paste on each lot, and make minor chnages, so they still look the same?

Thanks!

Tyu.

here is what i came up with, (: i really like it lol!




25 lots total, but there are more small lots, and a place for the shoppes,

That looks good, Conner. Could you put that map up in the important questions. That way people can click the button if they agree with it.

Wow, you want me to build 3 of those 10x10 houses? That's going to be quite a challenge, lol! You know what... I'll build 2 of them, if you build 1 too. I'm so curious to see what you do with it!

We're going to need a pretty diverse population and like I said, I wasn't sure about the numbers. I was trying to compare things to real life. The houses from 80.000 would have sims that are rich and have real pretty homes, but they're not millionares. Those would be the ones from 100.000 on. But to make sure I'm going to check the EA neighbourhoods to see which houses get the actual "they are rich" notification.

i will, the reason i wanted you to do them, is because i thought it would look nice if they all match, cause there so close together, but i supposed i could edit one, lol.(:

sounds good, let me know what you find!

Fishing spots! That's what we're still going to need too. Not that I'm saying they have to go in the valley, but we shouldn't forget that we're going to need them. Most of the water in our world is salt water, so we'll have to make some fresh water spots too.

Oh, you want them all to match? Ok, that will make the job easier. I can just copy the same lot and edit it, lol! But yeah, I was looking forward to seeing you do a teeny weeny mini home.

when you have one of the 3 done, upload it, then i will tweak that one, so the exteriors all match,

here is one side of the entrance to the mansion area. (:

That's the 10x10 lot? And you're already done?? Wow! It looks very cute, a bit like a fairytale house.

There are 5 really rich families in Sunset Valley, but it's a bit difficult to tell where the exact line is. The lots there are so much bigger than ours. I'm going to try to move in some sims in our world in a house that's a little over 100.000 and in one that's around 90.000 and see what it tells me.

no, thats the 10X15, the entrance to the really big homes, here is another pic, i did both sides, (its as close to gated as i could get!(:

alright, well i built a home for the valley! I also took a picture so you can see where it is in relation to the entrance to the mansions, this will be a mid-high income home.

Tyu.

Ok, I've been playing our town for a while and nearly everyone is stinking rich, lol! Of course I moved them all in with the freeRealEstate cheat, so I think that's the reason. They've all got way to much spending money.
Funny thing is that Dario and Luca have hooked up and they look so cute together, lol!

btw, where's Craggles? We haven't heard from him in a day or 2... that can't be good!

i think he said he is getting into his dorm at college, but i could be wrong, he said it was at the beginning of september, maybe he went early, if its not that i would be surprised, he always has something to say. (:

Haha i'm still alive. My internet's having a party and not working. I have explained my thoughts on the valley in another thread! Hopefully no one will object to it... So yeah I wont be about for a bit cuz I have no intermet. But I'll hopefully be back properly on the 2nd once the net is sorted I my new house at uni. Till then ima play with my nectary and the houses rose wants me to do :-) oh and If I need to know something important I've got dd on facebook so I'll message him and he'll get back to me. WONT YOU HAMBLETON?! Haha

im glad your alive, its been much quieter! (: hah, do you and hambleton know each other ?

I'm glad you're ok too, Craig. I was worried sick about you
Sorry you're internet is having a party! And why do you call him Hambleton? lol. :D

Well if you're lucky! :/ also have got to say that i LOVE the new name Also lol how you described it as a party, bit too cool there

No we don't know each other, Craig is just a crazy stalker who wants to recruit me for nottingham trent and who knows why he calls me that, it is his own spin on Hamilton!

So, is he having any luck with the recruiting? And Craig how's your simself coming along? I still want to have you in our world, so I can play with you, hahaha

Awh, i see. Thats kind of creepy craig.....(: lol.

Wait....you were serious about the sim self! Oh, lol. I did not know that.

ok, so this is what i came up with, i moved the fire station to be more in the middle of our city, because it needs to get to emergencys quickly! (: I removed the tattoo shop, because rose built a home that can have a tattoo shop in the basement, (rose, would you be willing to make a copy of the home for the ambitions file with the tattoo shop? if not, we can put the tattoo shop somewhere else.) i also moved the laundromat near the fire station, i have a home on it at the time, (30X30) this freed up a lot of space for everyone to have at least 1 lot in the valley, again, it can be changed, but i think its a better compromise,

Let me know, Tyu.

Right folks. I'm back from Tonga and will get the world uploaded asap and post the link here when it's done. It's an older file that I expected. I had done more work on the mountains but I think I've lost the newer version during computer rearrangements. :/

Hey Kiwi, it's wonderful to see you! Sorry you lost the newer version, but thanks for taking the time to upload the world.
If you have any suggestions to what you'd like to see done, could you please let us know?

hey, nice to see you! Dont worry about it being older, we can always fix it! And if you do have any suggestins as rose mentioned, please inform us, (we need all the help we can get! lol)

Hi, hope you had a good holiday Don't worry we'll try and do what we can with it, we would never have been able to make such an awesome world without your invaluable help up to this point!

im gonna sound like the others but still. Cheers for your help so far!! I'm gonna have fun playing with it!!
which reminds me, are we all gonna download the .world file and do what we want with it? or have one person d/l the file and edit it? the second one sounds a better option tbh then we all have just one world thats the same. and ive already said i dont mind doing it as i have a month of nothing before uni starts :D

Craig, I'm fine with you doing the editing. And I'm very curious to see what you're going to come up with!

i think it would be best if you edited it, then posted it, then we have the exact same world. but i think we should all like it before you uploadit.

Yes, it would be nice if you could show us some pictures during the process.

ItalyPorto.rar


Took me a little longer to upload than I expected. We've just had an earthquake here in NZ and all the telecommunications networks seem pretty overloaded or something. Let me know if there are any issues.

Thanks so much, Kiwi!
You had an eathquake? OMG, hopefully you're ok!

well of course I'll post pictures up!! so what do you guys want? connors valley lots, my ambitions lots, the nectary (whoop) and wasnt there something to do with that other bit near the port that had the lighter grass?

Just have a look at the pictures Connor made and see if it's possible to fit those lots. And of course your ambitions lots and the nectary.
The part by the port is where the castle should go... and if your nectary doesn't fit on the mountain, there will be room for it there.
Also... there's a square next to the gym/stadium area, that looks exactly the same. It's where the business and science center could go. Just play around with some lot sizes and see what you like. Maybe the middle could have a section where sims could sit and relax when their on their "pretend" break.

Oh, and the fish bar should go somewhere too. That size is 40x30. And we need the military base, the mines, fishing spot(s) and a beach lot.
Can you first have a look where all of those things would be possible?

And remember the pretty roman thing you build in the town center? Maybe you could ad a lot that size next to it.

Also, we need to find a place to hide the dump.

dont you worry about that i'll find somewhere to put it. I'll make two versions of the map. one with ambitions lots included, and one without :D

If you turn on the grid you'll get a good feel for the areas that I made entirely flat (or as flat as possible). I'll try to keep an eye on this thread, so don't hesitate to ask me questions about the way the world is right now.

Seeing as Ambitions adds, at most, a few new lots it might be easier to make those lots and just have them as separate files for people to download, rather than having a whole map with them already in it. Was that what you were suggesting Craggles?

Also, are we distributing the world prepopulated via save game? Or via actual prepopulation? If I find time within the next few months and if the project isn't finished (adding Sims and little details is actually very time consuming) then I'll gladly prepopulate the world. If not, my guide for prepopulation is on the MTS wiki.

Are we planning to release an empty world alongside a prepopulated one? I think that's the best approach. Save games have a superficial appeal, but a lot can go wrong with them and the changes in formatting from expansions and patches can render old ones useless/tricky to use.

yeah i thought 2 worlds, but your idea makes more sense haha! and i have no idea about the rest!

on another not, Tyu, i have some news for you. Movnig in has been pretty hectic, and I dont know how much time I'm gonna have in the future, so do you fancy sorting out the .world file once ive messed about with the nectary? I'll put the buildings i have in as well for you. so u can just play with the valley area that you like yes?

Kiwi, I think an actual prepopulation will make the world more interesting. It would be great if you could find the time to do that. If not, your tutorial will come in very handy so one of us can do it.
Also, I agree that releasing an empty world next to the prepopulated one, will be a very good idea.

Craig, I'm so curious to see if your nectary is going to fit! Can't wait to see it in game!

I like your plan Kiwi, however i think we should only consider doing a prepopulated world is someone can find enough time for it, it is not essential.

ARGH i cant get the file to export from CAW and then install into sims3. the launcher just tells me that its already installed, but when i try to start a new game with the edited map, its just NOT THERE. im so angry, any pointers? lol

can you rename the file?

Oh, Craggles. I understand you've sorted it out. You need to delete the file from your "Downloads" folder in the Sims 3 directory, AND you need to uninstall the world. Each time. It's a pain, I know.

ok so its apparent that me and CAW dont get on
someone else is gonna have to take over im afraid, i dont have the time to mess about with it anymore im starting to get everything ready for my course and i dont want to leave you guys high and dry!! Im so sorry
and on the bloody nectary, ive rebuilt it on a 50x50 lot thats flat so it can go basically everywhere, though I've built it in the weird space next to the port thats all light green and nice, ive squashed it in right next to all the olive trees, and it looks damn nice :P

If the absolute worst comes about, I finish my course mid-to-late October and should be free-ish then (except I'll be job-hunting).

That might have to work kiwi, because i do not have anytime either,

I think we could wait till then, just power on with building everything

true, but there is not much left to build until we have a new map.

I still haven't started on the bookstore yet (and probably wont for some time, I'm still working on the hospital) so if someone wants to take that over if your itching to build I wouldn't mind