Wow, this thread has turned out to be really informative and useful for me, especially getting back into TS2 after so long - thank you!
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
It's a bit strange that the sim wants to marry "someone else" if they're already married (could depend on aspiration) - is it just a generic want to get married, or do they want to get married to a particular sim? Which aspiration do they have?
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Sorry, he isn't married already, but he has 3 children and didn't roll any wants relating to them when I switched his aspiration to family while testing. He is popularity normally. Back on his normal aspiration, he never rolled any wants relating to seeing Tank (his favourite) go to university, grow up well or join the military career. If fact he never rolls any wants relating to any of his other kids and none of his wants even acknowledge them no matter how much they interact.
Quote: Originally posted by trambling101
The main difference I have discovered is that I am obtaining the "Get Married to Sim" want, or forcing it upon my couples. I often reset love flag using the Sim Blender/Manipulator and Midge's Develop Love interaction then fulfilling the Engagement want using testing cheats and re-adding the engaged flag with the Sim Blender/Manipulator.
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So before you got into the habit of using Sim Blender to reset the love flags, were your sims never rolling wants for this? I am moving towards proposing in my game at the moment and am waiting to see if they will roll any wants relating to this. At the moment sims seem to never roll any wants related to their partners when they live off-lot. Even when they see eachother but aren't on dates, they get no wants relating to them. The only time they get roll wants relating to their partners is on dates.
Quote: Originally posted by trambling101
• Sims who have been married so far in my game (usually both have rolled the "Get Married to Sim" want) will ALWAYS roll the Kiss X, Flirt with X, and Talk to X almost every morning, and when they return from work for their spouses (this is established by getting married, engaged sims never roll the Kiss X want randomly unless prompted by the flirt want first [Romance sims are an exception])
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I've noticed this with one of my families! The popularity aspiration wife has 2 kids but only rolls wants about flirting, playing etc. with her husband. I'll see if, as they get progress towards teenagers, she rolls any wants about them aging up well or getting a good report card. I first played this family out of CAS on the brand new game and they had a lot of parent wants like teaching the toddler skills and seeing the kid get an A report card.
I also have a single mother sim who just rolls 4 wants relating to social interactions with her kid evey morning (nothing about private school or good grades yet through).
Quote: Originally posted by trambling101
Thanks all for reading and let me know if you require further elaborations. I too find that the wants system in Super Collection and maybe even for the Mac-port in general was slightly altered as I have even gone back on my discs before and was able to see similar occurrences.
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Thank
you for all the information you've done on this, it's fascinating to read helpful to know! I'm sad the old ports are also affected, as I did think about cracking out my old discs and playing those instead (i'm still on Mojave). Whilst searching online to see if anyone else has experienced it, I found 1 other thread also on the Mac SC from a few years ago, but also
this person in 2008, also playing on a Mac.
I've been considering a bootcamp partition to finally get my chance to play with Freetime, Apartment Life and the beloved Ikea stuff after all these years, and if I do I will be keeping an eye on if/how the wants differ there.
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
If you reset the relationship flags ingame a lot, make sure they reset for both sims, and that you don't accidentally mix in other sims. That could cause some iffy wants with one-sided relationships or stray loves. Likely what's happened is that their marriage was reset but the game didn't set the status properly, so it doesn't quite recognize them as married even if all the icons say they are. I've had a couple weird ones that didn't quite register after messing about with the Insimenator or SimBlender, either marriages with some issues, or kids/parents that didn't quite see each other as such.
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I haven't touched relationship flags and even removed all my mods for a few hours of playing and was still seeing the same thing. The main thing i'm noticing is parents wants just not acknowledging their kids after a while, but also other sims in the same household doing the same thing. Buzz Grunt (aspiration sim) only rolls wants about making friends and throwing parties, nothing about any of his 3 kids ageing up well, going to university, getting married etc. so far.
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
And just remember that one, maybe even two or three sims don't always make a pattern. If you see the wants sometimes but not always, your game likely works fine.
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Ops older thread was playing on a rotation between a bunch of different households and they noticed that they all started rolling the generic, bland wants after a while. There's also
this thread of another SC Mac player expriencing the same thing.
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Check without mods if you're unsure, so you get a baseline of how your game behaves. If more wants show up where they're supposed to, it's likely an issue with mods.
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I actually removed all my mods for a good few hours of gameplay and it made no change to the wants as far as I saw.
I do also have another computer with TS2 installed and unplayed/modded, so I am tempted to play just the Grunt's again (and only them) to use use as a test to see what happens want-wise in comparison to my game.
Generally I am noticing very generic wants and parents wants ignoring their kids completely, but i've still got plenty of playing to do still. In general gameplay, it seems like dates work fine (want-wise), but sims will not usually roll big wants with specific sims in mind. By this, I mean no wants to see X age up well or to go on a date with X or fight X etc. I have seen generic big wants like 'go to private school' or 'go steady' appear, but not the versions of those wants with specifc sims in mind (except kiss, make out etc. on dates).
As I carry on playing, i'm curious to see whether sims do roll any of these, as well as if the 'big wants' that should appear, do. It's hard to feel like i'm not just playtesting at times though lol, but I have also enjoyed focusing on a sims wants and trying to use them to guide my actions way more. Even if it's not working properly, this system is still SO GOOD compared to anything in TS3 or 4.
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