That did it, thank you. By now I should have known renaming the folder would be the answer, since I do that to get clean hoods



Didn't know there was also a duplicated Bachelor. Maxis really messed things up with those duplicated dead spouses. Funny how this issue didn't also occur with the Skip Broke double.
Thankfully, the batbox did fix the Pleasantview incorrect subjects, but they remain in the subhoods. Guess I'll just have to fix those manually, after all =/

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Thank you again for your help, as well as for the great work with Strangetown. It's good to have a fixed version of the same exact hood from my childhood.

This seems to be implying that this specific Strangetown is the cleanest Strangetown out there. If so, what's wrong with Meetme's templates? Yes she may have deleted all the townies, but whether to keep the townies is a player-to-player basis. Are you suggesting there's some hidden borkiness in her rereleased templates that your hood doesn't? If so, elaborate.

More a thing for people who play the Maxis pre-made hoods or use the Maxis story album. If someone (like me) has long ago deleted all Maxis hoods and never uses the Maxis story album I think dropping it in directly should be safe.

Could also be because you didn't also delete the Neighbourhood manager file?

First of all, I commend your work here, you've clearly gone to great lengths to make this as clean and close to Maxis' version as possible, and I know first-hand how much work that is. Replacing the character data for all of the ancestors is also impressive, that's tedious work.

However, I wish you didn't feel the need to advertise your work as "better" or "the most clean", or by stating vague untruths about my template.

Almost everything in your changelog was also fixed in mine, such as DNA (including recessive DNA, I'm not sure your changelog said anything about that?), relationships, and memories.

In the most recent version (available through my tumblr account) the ghosts no longer have to be sent to a mirror to see their fixed appearances either. The portrait/appearance changes are only in the ghosts, and the appearances were only changed on the sims who had broken faces and thus no true original to go by. Portrait changes are cosmetic only anyway, and the game will constantly regenerate those once you start playing, also for ghosts.

It's also untrue that my Strangetown template has been loaded/initialized ingame. It has not. All fixes were made in SimPE.

Mine does not include all the ancestors and it doesn't include most of the townies/NPCs, this much is true. This was a choice made in order to save space/the number of character files, since I made my templates specifically for building a megahood/uberhood/combined hood. There's also a few minor changes to a couple of sims' ages, etc. If I was going to start over now, I'd make these changes/deletions optional instead. So it's nice to have this option of a clean/fixed Strangetown with all of that intact now.

But please don't confuse people by implying my template is less clean or more unsafe to play than yours. More close to the Maxis original, yes. Has more/different cosmetic fixes? It seems so, although I haven't gone through and compared the actual templates. But the only real main difference is the ancestors and townies, it seems to me.



Just would like to know what these general understandings and especially tools are? SimPE is OLD and is what I used as well, and the HoodChecker? I also used that, even though I'd done most of that cleaning manually before it was made. In fact I helped Mootilda with suggestions and testing it back when she made it.

I also know the technical reason the photo albums (may) disappear when you put the template directly into the Documents/Neighborhoods folder, but not when it's added through the game folders, so maybe we could share information instead of being vaguely competitive about it? I didn't know that PT9 originally was retired, or how to fix the curtains in Olive's lot through using SimPE, so that's interesting information.

In fairness, this project was started some years ago now. I did actually go through your template at the time and also play tested it, and found some unresolved things back then. I was not aware you had updated it since, that's genuinely awesome. I've edited the post above to remove my comments and indicate it was based on outdated information. I do respect your work very much, but I stand by that there were some unresolved things found at the time. Otherwise I would have saved myself all the trouble and just added the missing Sims to your template.


Now I am sorry for that, as I'm probably confusing yours with the mark93 version. There was one I had encountered which had been loaded in-game, and it was likely that one (and I do remember the mark93 one was definitely corrupt since it consistently crashed on even a clean game). I had dug through some different versions that I had found online at the time, just to get an idea of what I would be undertaking.


In the spirit of good faith, I've modified the download description, though I have to say the original one was collectively referring to multiple projects.

Could you share this, please? I'd like to understand what's going on because I want to figure out how/if the issue will affect the conversion to subhood if I can't load it through the game first.

Thank you, there was indeed a mod conflict. The mod that allows to name a different Sim as a father was messing with Pascal specifically giving him sim relations with every sim in Strangetown. I removed the majority of my game mods just in case and left the ones that generating unnecessary NPCs. Everything runs fine now.

do you know how to actually get the story album to transfer too? does it have to do with neighborhood manager? a few of us, like me and Mr sunrader asked questions on it and wed appreciate it if you knew and let us know. thanks

Can someone please share the complete path for the "saved game" folder? I know that it is somewhere in C: -->Users--> *user*-->Documents-->EA Games-->The Sims 2--> ?-->? *(Please complete this path to the end--not sure for the exact name of the saved game folder )
It looks awesome, Dorsal Axe I just want to be sure I know how to set it up right

*I do know where to find the template one though.

**Update: I found out what I needed to do. The following folders are all needed for your saved games: Neighborhoods, Downloads (mods--if you have any), Storytelling, Packaged Lots, Saved Sims, and Movies (if you want them). I have it working now Thanks so much, Dorsal Axe

I love these clean hoods, thanks for your take on it, but sometimes the neighborhood story book is deleted when you put this directly into your documents pathway, are you familiar with how to fix this Dorsal? if anyone else knows i would be thankful

@Dorsal Axe just to be honest, it seems extremely superficial of you to only change it once Tarlia / Meetme actually called you out saying that advertising your Strangetown as the "most clean one" isn't true. You had all this time in the upload queue to change it, but once you get confronted THEN you change it? I'm sorry man, this just irked me and I had to be honest about it.

DA suggested putting it in the installation files instead of the Neighborhoods folder for this reason. You could do that. I wonder if you couldn't just put that file back in, though. Did you try?

I put it directly into my documents and sometimes the neighborhood photos dont transfer. i believe it works for subhoods fine because you add them in via in game from, the program files, but im not sure. I do know that putting them in the documents does not work however

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I've already explained the situation, and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to do something before I'm even aware about it. If you have a grievance with me, it would be more appropriate to take it up with me in a PM rather than here.


I believe it's possibly to do with a change one of the EPs made to how screenshots are handled. In the base game they were in a single Storytelling folder shared between all neighborhoods, but an EP changed it so that they get sorted into separate versions of this folder for each neighborhood. There's a far more detailed explanation about this change here, along with a potential (and kind of cumbersome) workaround if you're affected: http://modthesims.info/showthread.p...684#post5064684

The simplest thing to do though is follow the installation instructions (I've rewritten them to make it easier to follow) and generate a clean save folder, as this will allow the game to convert the albums properly and avoid the issue. From there you can move the newly generated hood over to your existing save directory.

Hey DA, I've decided to bug-test Sunrader's subhood version, and they're likely also included the main version as well. So I've decided to report them to you too.



About the comment thingies, Sunrader suggested on how it might have happened because I played Strangetown out of order, is that so? Haven't tested it again. Thank you for your DL!

This this was very much needed

Are the installation instructions different if we've never played Strangetown and thus have no saved games of it?

Curiosly, i cant seem to find bella goth in this version of the hood, shes a townie correct? did you delete her? Id like to know thanks

Hmmm, I was surprised by this question, so I checked my version, and Bella is there, but she's in the default family. I checked the original in the install folders and it is the same there, as Dorsal Axe has, true to form, kept to the original.

I was under the impression Bella had a townie FAMI (family instance) in Strangetown, but I guess not. I guess we could move her to the townie family, but in the subhood that would mean her name would be randomized, right? Probably best to do it after the subhood is already attached. Or, now that you know she's there, you can summon her and turn into a townie or whatever you want her to be.

Meanwhile, I've uploaded a link to the subhood on my Simblr now in case anyone wants it.

Hi there!
First of all, I appreciate your work! I really like this fixed version with all the townies/NPCs intact... though, I have a question: aren't the Curious brothers and Lola and Chloe supposed to be siblings? They don't know each other and in the family tree, they aren't connected as well.

Thank you I was looking for a fixed version of Strangetown with all the townies. I was about to do all of it myself and I found yours, you saved me from a lot of trouble. Thanks!

Hi! Loving this hood so far, but I just wanted to say that Johnny and Jill were not properly related to the Curious brothers (Pascal started to gain chemistry with Johnny XD) I appreciate your time and work put into this though, good work!

Hi, uh, I got a dumb question and I really need some help--each time I try to generate a new save folder by moving the folder, nothing happens. Do I have to start up the game to force it to generate a new one or is there another way to do it?

EDIT: Nevermind, just went ahead and booted it up and it worked. I'm going to leave this comment here, just for anyone else like me who needs little details spelled out for them.

Hi, I see that you haven't logged in since May but I'm gonna comment anyway in the hopes that you'll see it-- I'm having trouble. I'm really dense (thanks adhd) and I'm having a hard time visualizing your instructions. Is there anyway you could provide like, a video of you going through the process? If not, it's okay!

what are you struggling with? installing the neighbourhood to you game?