In my hood. Cher doesn't actually own the Deli, it's just a community lot. Don't know how you would play it as a business anyway, the way it's set up with regular stoves. I added Wide Spot as a sub hood. FUN! When I first opened Keller, he wanted to make zombies of his 4 dead relatives; I didn't know if YOU could have set this up - but I can't find their graves anyway. AND he wants to be a criminal; am I correct that LTW are randomly generated? I've been playing carefully, so as not to get too involved changing relationships, etc before figuring stuff out. But so far:
Chace was seen playing chess with Widespot resident, Valentine Hart. Hart is a notorious womanizer; Chace seems to be asking if he knows anything about the deaths.

NOTE - neither was playable on this community lot.
Playing Constance on a community lot, Chance showed up and (via ACR) she got a first kiss - from Chance! Then I noticed she was attracted to Widespot's Junior Mann (the OTHER bad guy), so I had her talk, and whistle at him. She only had one bolt for Chace, and they couldn't have really had anything serious going on. But the detective must have thought kissing an innocent woman gave him some rights.

If this wasn't something I HAD created, I would think the detective has some things to answer to. He assaulted a woman he had only kissed one time, just for whistling at another man? He needs to study anger management. And why does it show wedding rings? They weren't engaged were they?

Playing the Douglas family is hard, but the ODeth is even harder; everyone is SO unhappy!

Note: About making the Deli into an actual deli - First, you need OFB. Have Cher buy the Deli. Change out the stoves to the commercial one and add the podium. After that... all should be good
Remember, this hood was made for a base-game configuration with no CC. And things were intentionally left open-ended so you could make it into what YOU wanted - and suit it to your playing style. Have fun with it! I love hearing what the different characters do when they're played by someone else - it's always sooo different

Thanks. Also, what about Keller's wants (1st time I played him) - he wanted to make a zombie of his 4 dead relatives - was that just a CHANCE roll? And I've looked in EVERY SINGLE lot for their graves, and can't find them. A hint?

I think I will have to start a story, "Murder in Bayside Flats", with chapters about different families.

I believe his family's graves are on Cher's lot. Check there.

And about his wants: I guess it's just a chance roll, as you said. We only created the game using BG, so Zombies aren't present without Uni.

I've checked Cher's lot. As with all the others (even community and vacant lots), I've looked everywhere; under roofs, in sub-floor, even moved some stuff to see if they've been "hidden". And, as usual, the characters write the story (somewhat), just by CHANCE. Cool!

The gravestones should be in the back right corner of Cher's property. When I resurrected them for the storytelling pictures everything/everyone worked fine.

OMG how silly of me! For some reason, looking at her lot, I thought I was seeing a lot-line and didn't go past it! The graves are quite obvious.

I want this on Sims 2 Double Deluxe (Sims 2 + Nightlife), there's no NeighborhoodTemplate folder, just Neighborhood. Where do I put the downtown subhood?

@Mxtty you need to open DD and then open EP2 folder and then follow the rest of the instruction.

Here is my path for it. C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Double Deluxe\EP2\TSData\Res\NeighborhoodTemplate

ADD: I have added this info to the first page.

Thank you, it works!

Okay wait another question. It's messing up. Do I remove the Downtown files or just add them with them? My files currently have both folders. B001 and this one. Do I remove the normal Nightlife one completely from the file?

No you do not have to remove B001 but you must remember only the first Downtown that gets added will have Sims any other Downtown that gets added will not have any sims in it.

What is messing up?

Eh, it doesn't matter. It all got resolved after a while. No need to bother it.
Instead I thought I should add my own story here, since everyone else seems to be going their own direction.
I, however, went in my own complete direction, furthering the story even more.

I added 2 new families to spice up the hood. There's the Amberchase family (Matt and Nicky Amberchase), siblings, who live together across the street from Constance Sinclair. They've moved here upon hearing of the murders, and are determined to help Chase Z. find out who it is. But they have growing suspicions on certain subjects..

The second family I moved in was the Aretha household. It is 1 woman, her name is Sia. She dabs in witchcraft, believes that she can conjure spells to make people love her, and has always been called a 'freak' by people who knew her. She has been a registered 'stalker' of the people in the Amberchase household for quite some time, going as far as purchasing a lighthouse just to live near them. Determined to get Matt's heart, she lives alone in her lighthouse, not knowing anything about the murders or the murderer him/herself.

Anyway

My story has probably advanced further than most in the fact that I probably did some things that you guys would recommend I don't. I've had the 'killer' kill more story plot characters to juice up the story. (After playing as all of them for quite some time of course, I allowed some aging to happen)
Now,
I plan on continuing this murder mystery for the final unveil. One, or maybe a few more important story character(s) will die before this mystery is solved.
There are still so many more families and ideas to involve that aren't even here yet. I would love to come back and elaborate my story for you guys if you don't mind. Believe it or not, this is actually a very rushed version of saying what I was elaborating on, lol.

Also, spectacular job. This is probably my favorite downloadable on this entire site. Neighborhoods with a story, that I can actually ELABORATE myself on, are hard to find, and especially something this cunning.

So, thank you guys for making such a perfect neighborhood. I've fallen in love with Bayside Flats again everytime I load up Sims 2.

Oh YAY!!! @Mxtty - What beautiful words!

I am so glad you like it - and that you can elaborate as you have. That is exactly what/how I wanted this hood to do/function. I'm just sitting here 'smiling' all over the keyboard Everyone plays differently; yet, somehow we're all playing the same game.

I love the way your story is evolving! :lovestruc Please - keep us posted (are you keeping a simblr/journal? I'd love a link!)

I'm new here so I didn't know if my version would have made any of you actually happy
I don't know what a simblr is, unfortunately, like I said, I'm new here, I don't exactly know how to do anything yet.

But I do have another elaboration since last night.
I'll put it all in spoiler tags for convenience



If I find out how to do a journal here, I'll get right to it, lol

@Mxtty

I hope you don't take this the wrong way but I for one would like to thank you with a like button but we don't have that option here.

I have made a "What did you do with the Bayside Flats characters?" thread to post your story lines and how you are going about finding the answer to the mystery.
http://modthesims.info/showthread.p...d=1#post4819141

Normally this thread should be kept for "Thank you" post or asking for help if needed.

ok thank

Thanks~ I'm enjoying the hood.

I think solved the crime lol it was fun! Now I intend the "killer" to begin wreaking havoc with SimWardrobe's assault rifle lol Well done! And you should make more mystery 'hoods! This is like my favorite now :)
:P
However...I could make the killer be someone else :P

I have moved in seven hot single women into the 'hood and five sexy single men. Just for kicks XD

I'm really enjoying this neighborhood. Thank you! :-)

Also I think I have solved the crime. Although I haven't read every deceased sim's bio (like everyone else), I have other theory than the most popular.

First I read every alive sim bio, and I was interested in Fiona's, I read it several times, and I think it looked sarcastic, like if she didn't like her life. Also in the douglas storybook, in the picture where craig and his daughters are playing there is a painting of a soldier (I think it's called "the coward soldier" or something like that) and he is very similar. Plus they live in a castle, so he may have gone to the army and he may have done something really cowardly. Another thing is that in Fiona's room there is champagne, why? so I made chace to analize it, and guess what? the finger prints marked Clyde. So he may have celebrated something with fiona, but what? if their respective spouses have been killed, so I made a theory:
Clyde went to the army with Craig, Craig did something really coward and Clyde wanted revenge. So for the last years he had been looking for him. Also he didn't like his life, too many children and one more?! he couldn't stand it anymore. So he made a plan with Fiona, she would kill his wife, and he would kill her husband. And why were the O' deth killed? Because they had heard their plans and were discovered, so that's why the O' Deth were so scared and were discovered, so after killing Craig and Aisha, they went to threat the O' Deth, they refused so Clyde and Fiona killed them.

Also I have read that Constance was the killer, but it would be so obvious, plus I haven't read the ghosts bios so I can't tell if it's true!

Very interesting theory @Tepo12 I love it!!!

...that Fiona's a got a lot more goin' on than it first appears

Ooooh! This town sounds so cool, I'd love to download and play it, as well!

However, I have a question first. I noticed that you said it was created with Numenor's AnyGameStarter. Which apparently is not compatiable with the Ultimate Content collection for the Sims 2, which is what I have and play. While I think I'd love to download and play this town, not if it comes at the cost of my game itself, you know? Can anyone tell me whether it's safe to download and play this town, for those of us with UC? Thank you so much!

@serendipity380

Oh, just because it was created with AnyGameStarter doesn't mean that it requires it. You can play this neighborhood with also the Ultimate Collection. Many people did so and they haven't had any problems with it.
So it's completely safe to download and play this town, even if you UC.

Oh wow! That's awesome to know, thank you so much @Jawusa ! I really appreciate your response to my question on that. And again, thank you for your hard work in all your great stuff. But the towns seriously, I'm in utter awe of!