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Peni Griffin 4th Mar 2017 6:22 PM

I would point out that Consort is not the only member of the family able to react to Juliette's vampirism. If he's anything like the ruthless more-Capp-than-the-Capps regent he's painted as, of course he throws Juliette out (if you're going with Juliette as the heir he may even be happy to do it, as he may have a relative he would prefer for the position and now has an opportunity to make it so). Hermia and Tybalt may or may not be down with that. Would Hermia run away with her? Would Tybalt hunt for a cure?

Despite the fight with Romeo, Juliette may still be able to take refuge with the Montys, at least some of whom might see a political advantage in having a converted Capp. After all, werewolves can operate round-the-clock, while vampires can't get out during the day - they could make a parade out of their loving kindness in taking her in and rub in a message about the cold-blooded, inhumane vampire Capps while Consort et al are sleeping. If you have Bianca and Kent together they could take her in out of kinship and mercy.

Ginger, now - she's an interesting side plot that could easily grow. She's a disadvantaged, vulnerable teen with a large family. Does she run away from the situation? Is Juliette vengeful toward her? Does Gavin defend her? Do things escalate and they get drawn into the feud, a family of teen werewolf servants/muscle for the Montys? Do she and Juliette bond over Romeo's unfaithfulness? The Newsons could use a dog for protection...

Bulbizarre 5th Mar 2017 11:39 PM

Lots of good ideas. Not quite sure what to do as of yet - I'll let the story roll out a bit and go with whatever feels best. Thank you everyone.

(Also, believe it or not, I never even considered Twilight. I don't really know much about it either, something about 700-year-old vampires that look like teenagers and an absolutely boring protagonist? And werewolves get involved at some point.)

Astha123 6th Mar 2017 1:38 PM

Juliette could be cast out to temporarily live with a caretaker. The Capps try to find the cure. Juliette could suddenly get angry and bite Ginger, but regret it and start a friendship.

Sunbee 6th Mar 2017 11:27 PM

Would you ship Chester Geike and Mary Land? I haven't played Widespot at ALL yet in this uberhood so I don't know about her pre-existing relationships, but Chester's got this ask sim on date want and Mary's a friend and he thinks she's really hot. Because how often do a sim's random turn-ons exactly match the first girl he sees the first time he goes to a community lot? Chester likes brown hair and glasses . . . and I bet he'd be very teachable, to channel Valentine Hart for a moment.

Peni Griffin 7th Mar 2017 12:13 AM

Sounds promising. It depends on how he plays - and Mary already has two problematic loves, so why not hedge her bets?

Justpetro 7th Mar 2017 10:42 AM

Chester is always an asset in any hood I play And you forget about the glittering, ihatetomandatoryregister, of the Twi- lite vampires

Sunbee 7th Mar 2017 5:37 PM

Mary took rather much offense to Val sweet talking a townie on the first night outing Junior invited Candy on, so that's one definite no . . . and I do like Chester a lot. Candy's needs were tanking too fast to get around to sorting out the Mann mess, and with ACR and romancemod reactions are always up in the air.

Rosawyn 9th Mar 2017 2:49 AM

I have a bit of a dilemma... Playing in Four Corners/Bitville (converted from Sims Stories to TS2, and Bitville is added as a subhood to Four Corners).

Ashley (Romance/Pleasure) cheated on her husband Warring (Fortune/Romance) with both Samantha (Romance/Pleasure) and Mickey (Romance/Family). He caught her with Mickey 'cause they were being really blatant at the bowling alley and kicked Ashley to the curb with less than $3k. (He's a bit of a hypocrite, because he also had a brief affair with Sasha, but she's not really important to this story at this point.) Unfortunately, Ashley was pregnant with Warring's baby! :O In desperate need of a roof over her head (and food!) she moved in with Samantha. The thing is...Samantha is also dating Mickey. Ashley had the baby (a little girl she named Haylee), and everything seems to be going well. Warring befriended Samantha so he could gift her with a crib, change table, and a toddler toy - he got two big bonuses at work, and I was sick of him being such a deadbeat! He also watched the baby while both Samantha and Ashley were at work, even though he and Ashley are enemies (obviously Samantha did the asking). Thing is, Warring decided he likes Samantha (they have 2LB chemistry) and they shared a kiss. He also wants to ask her on a date. Everyone's ignoring poor Mickey! Even though he's playing the field, he eventually wants to settle down (LTW is golden anniversary).

So I guess the main options I'm considering at this point are:
1. Mickey manages to get Samantha pregnant (this was my original thought)
2. Mickey manages to get Ashley pregnant (certainly possible now that she's no longer pregnant)
3. Warring manages to get Samantha pregnant
4. Some combo of the above?

Poor confused Mickey wants to eventually get married, but I'm not liking his chances much with either Samantha or Ashley.

Peni Griffin 9th Mar 2017 7:45 AM

Here's a little dilemma:
I attached LGU to my Widespot and have moved Sadie and the two oldest Newsons there, planning to phase out ALT. It'll probably be awhile before I see any of my dormies, as ALT has a full set already, but at some point I need to decide whether to given them their original names back or keep the randomized ones.

My first impulse is to change them back, as randomized names are mostly meaningless and dull, unlike my puns, private jokes, and Drama Acres references. But there are three problems with that.

First, SimPE on my gaming computer works erratically. Sometimes it decides it doesn't have the memory to complete even a simple task like opening the window I want; sometimes it works perfectly. Renaming a couple of a dozen students is just asking it to throw a hissy fit. SimPE on my old computer works perfectly, but the machines aren't networked and I'd have to put the neighborhood on a thumb drive and walk it across the hall. I'm not even sure it'll fit with both colleges attached. On the plus side, I need to figure out what the problem is anyway, and a project to spur me to dig down and get to the bottom of it may be just what I need.

Second, a small number of the dormies are missing their thumbnailes. To change their names, I'd have to figure out who they are without a picture, or wait till I can deal with it in-game. Either should be doable, but it's a certain amount of work and I have gobs of work I'm already not doing. It occurs to me that even wanting to change the names is arguably a procrastination tactic.

Third - a couple of the randomly generated names are awesome! Alien Maddy Moiselle, for example, is now Martha Jefferson. Obviously she's not a hybrid, but a full alien who did a little cursory research and picked a name that she assumed would fit right in, in the manner of an author naming her medieval heroine Guinevere instead of looking into what early 12th-century British parents were naming their children. I could go through and just change the non-awesome ones, but then I'd have to define "awesome" a little bit.

CaliBrat 9th Mar 2017 7:51 AM

@Peni Griffin do you hve Sim Manipulator? You can change both first and last name with SM so there's no need to open SImPe. You'll find it under the Misc Manipulator (pink flamingo. Should you decide to do name changes that is

Raindrop_D 9th Mar 2017 9:25 AM

@Rosawyn You've potentially got two couples that could keep everyone happy-ish in your options: Mickey and Ashley, and Warring and Samantha. Warring already got Samantha a crib and all that, so it sort of makes sense, I think?

@Peni Griffin You've mentioned your issue with SimPE a couple of times now. Go and fix it! It might just need to be reinstalled. As for the names, I'd do the ones who have no thumbnails from within the game (like CaliBrat said), and the others in SimPE... once you've fixed it... do eeet!

RoxEllen1965 9th Mar 2017 1:07 PM

@Peni Griffin - When I added LGU to Widespot 2, I used the Sim Blender to change the dormies' names. It uses the phone book interface so you can rename any townie, dormie, etc. in your hood that you want to, all from the comfort of your own home lot.

The Manipulator is a great tool, but with that one you'd have to teleport each dormie in, make them selectable, use the Manipulator to change their names, make them unselectable again, and then 'port them back off your lot. The Blender doesn't make you go through all that. Just pick the sim who needs a new name from the list of sims available, type in the new name and click OK. That's all you have to do (or "copy first name to last name"). No mass 'porting necessary.

Rosawyn 9th Mar 2017 1:11 PM

@Raindrop_D, thanks, but unfortunately Ashley has no interest in marrying again; she tried that once and it really didn't work out for her. As Mickey is ultimately looking to settle down, Ashley is clearly not the right one for him (he might not realize that, but I'm pretty sure she does). I'm more looking for interesting drama here, because isn't that the entire point of Romance sims? (I tend to avoid playing Romance sims, but like most hoods this one came pre-loaded with quite a few.)

Raindrop_D 9th Mar 2017 3:19 PM

Drama? Mickey gets both Samantha and Ashley pregnant. Warring gets involved with both women. Samantha and Ashley, on finding out they're pregnant, know that Mickey is the father but don't trust him with a kid -- so they drop the babies, however many they are, on Warring's door-step, telling him he's the father and to raise the kids on his own. Or something.

Bulbizarre 9th Mar 2017 7:13 PM

@Peni Griffin - I second CaliBrat's suggestion of the Sim Manipulator. Although the Sim Blender (and the batbox, too, I think) has renaming options, I found the manipulator the easiest of the three.

@Rosawyn - Mickey manages to get Warring pregnant? (I am so, so, sorry.) What if Mickey gets Ashley pregnant, and then Samantha gets pregnant but there's a question of who the dad is? If you use townies, there's another option for Mickey there.

Rosawyn 9th Mar 2017 7:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ihatemandatoryregister
@Rosawyn - Mickey manages to get Warring pregnant? (I am so, so, sorry.)

Not only do I not have the mods for that, but Warring's an elder... (There might be mods for that too, but still.)

Sims always know who the father of a baby is (unless there's mods for that as well?); it's in their memories and family trees and relationship panels. I'm sure it works great in some people's play styles to ignore all that, but it doesn't in mine. But thanks for the suggestions! It's fun seeing other people's perspectives on things.

Bulbizarre 16th Mar 2017 11:50 PM

Bianca Monty and Kent Capp spent the night together, and the next day, Bianca began having some unexplained nausea, and she knows what that means. However, considering the feud between the two families, she isn't sure whether to tell either Kent or her own family about it. Any suggestions?

joandsarah77 17th Mar 2017 12:04 AM

Elope.

Rosawyn 17th Mar 2017 12:10 AM

@ihatemandatoryregister, does Bianca feel Kent has a right to know? What sort of relationship do they have? I'm assuming they must be at least somewhat friendly, given the current circumstances. How would he react to the truth? Maybe Bianca decides to just follow her heart (assuming her heart knows what it wants) and let her family just deal with it.

yavannatw 17th Mar 2017 1:50 AM

I think she should tell Kent first and see what his reaction is. I would assume both families would be horrified.

Sunbee 17th Mar 2017 3:54 AM

Bianca plans to keep the baby or not? Because if she's giving it up for adoption for sure and certain, she might not tell anyone. But if she's considering keeping it, odds are good enough that if she does Kent will guess it could be his, so she might as well get his help with the whole situation. They can decide if their families are survivable together.
A lot of that depends on why precisely your Montys and Capps have a feud in the first place. In my game, the Capps are a movie dynasty. 'Cooking with Isabella' was a huge hit show before the fire (and is still popular in reruns), but while Isabella Monty was saved by the firefighters, unlike how it appears on the cooking channel, others died. The Capps blame the Montys for the massive kitchen fire that killed Cordelia and her husband. The Montys blame the Capps--they lost Hero, Claudio, and his wife. If proper safety equipment had been working . . . but the sprinklers didn't go off and somehow there was no pressure in the fire extinguishers (they aren't any of them stupid) . . . which is why Albany joined the police force in midlife, because he and Goneril suspect a third party murderer. Julien Cooke would tell him to investigate that shady fellow, Zebest Quizine, or whatever his name is . . . So while my Montys and Capps would be shocked, they wouldn't be horrified. Bianca and Kent grew up together on set, after all. (Though in my game Kent is gay, so there *would* be a round of "But why?" until Kent explained.)

Bulbizarre 18th Mar 2017 2:33 AM

Bianca does plan to keep the baby--and I like @joandsarah77's suggestion of eloping. I think I'll do that. Wonder if they should stay in Veronaville or move to another subhood, though.

joandsarah77 18th Mar 2017 2:53 AM

I would move them to a sub hood, at least for awhile. Maybe the grandchild could reconcile them down the road.

gummilutt 23rd Mar 2017 5:23 PM

Reporting back on the dilemma I posted a while back, asking advice on how to handle engagement wants rolled by pleasure Sim Alicia and romance townie Henrik.

As I mentioned in random thoughts thread, I decided to send Alicia on a twikki vacation and bring along her three main date objects and see what happened. It played out quite nicely. First night they all crowded around her, fighting for attention. After that one of the guys clearly backed off, playing guitar for hours and hanging out in a different part of the lot than the rest. Ville was very keen, hanging around where Alicia was and trying to flirt all the time. But Alicia only ever autonomously interacted with Henrik, and when she did the animations were different from the ones with the other two. Doesn't get much clearer than that!

So I decided it was time for Henrik to go for it. I sent the two out on a date on their own, where I had Henrik surprise-propose at the restaurant.


Looking forward to seeing where things go. So far Henrik has been very much Alicia-devoted, hasn't rolled wants for anyone else. I can definitely see him be a devoted one-person romance Sim, but I could also see them have an open relationship. Will also be interesting to see if they want to get married. Alicia has not rolled any such wants, and Henrik has only rolled fears to marry, so for now I'd say chances are low. But you never know!

Phantomknight 29th Mar 2017 10:17 PM

So I need some ideas for my Pleasantview. I've talked about this hood in this thread before, but it was a while ago, so if you want some neighborhood backstory:

Now, I had thought to make Gabe O'Mackey be my headmaster for a simlogical private school. But now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know if actually want him to live there, so if anyone has any insight on how they run schools, that'd be helpful (like, do you use a placeholder or do you use a lot big enough for the headmaster to have a family, if you move sims in and out, etc.) Then, when I was playing Nina, I got the idea to have her be a homewrecker and get Morty Roth to break up with Stella. The symmetry is just too good to ignore, with her sister having married Mortimer. She also met the grand vampire and I decided that's her in; the allure of the undead and becoming a vampire is what will get Morty to leave his wife. Nina will become a vampire and promise Morty she'll make him one too. As for the Roth kids, I was thinking of having Stella marry Alexander, breaking her up with Jacob and probably putting him back together with Jules, who he has better chemistry with anyway, and leaving Xander as the heir of the Roths. But maybe Nina should fight to have a kid of hers inherit? Idk. Vampires are supposed to be infertile in my game, so I'd have to see.

So I got all that, but I've no idea what to do with Stella, like absolutely no clue. I do see her as someone who wants out of the country but I don't know if she should remarry, go into a business by herself, or what. In another hood I had her get with Leod, but this time around I don't think she'd want any part of the farm life Morty tried to get her into. So I need ideas for her.


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