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FranH 27th Nov 2024 4:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Phantomknight
What's the The Sims 2 Starter Pack? Is that the UC? And what isn't working? Mods? Or the neighborhood? If it's the neighborhood, then what version of the game were you running before? If you were running the Store Edition, then I think no, your hood is unplayable in the UC because the Store Edition is newer than the UC and EA never updated the UC with the Store Edition so the UC won't recognize your save. (You can go from the UC to the Store Edition, though.)

I believe there might be a way to update the hood, but I'm having trouble finding instructions, so first did you even have the Store Edition?


Yes, it is the UC with Lazy Duchess's RPC and lighting tweaks that is available through Github: https://github.com/voicemxil/TS2-Starter-Pack

The neighborhood is Arundel, complete with the entire folder dedicated to the medieval time-all my downloads, etc are in that folder.

The reason I had to switch to the UC was that my copy of NL stopped reading half-way through the new install on the computer, and I knew that if one disk doesn't read, the game itself is going to be affected.

So I took a chance-because someone else had recommended it-I think JoandSarah..her daughter has Win 11 and the Starter pack works very well with the Win 11 set up.

I was running with all EP's and SP's, with M&G being the .exe (I was using a cracked one too.)

The Starter pack has all the folders for all the games and you can choose any or all of them to be in your configuration. IF you decide to get it, you should get the web installer, because its fast and painless.

simsample 27th Nov 2024 5:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FranH
I'm meaning that I have an entire folder for the game themed for the medieval period. That means it's a separate game altogether.

Oh sorry @FranH I was thinking when you mentioned that 'I hadn't cleaned out the templates' that you needed to know where the folders were in the UC install (which was why I linked that article as it has folder layout). Glad you have it all going well!

FranH 27th Nov 2024 5:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by simsample
Oh sorry @FranH I was thinking when you mentioned that 'I hadn't cleaned out the templates' that you needed to know where the folders were in the UC install (which was why I linked that article as it has folder layout). Glad you have it all going well!



When I mentioned the 'templates' I was referring to the empty neighborhood templates that I've been using for 10 years-they're completely empty of all the townies in all the neighborhoods and the residents of them all.

I don't like having a lot of townies, so that I had to do after the mess I'd made trying to play Arundel before.

But: I have successfully loaded it up with the town and the medieval folder, and it's looking beautiful. One just has to make sure the folders are the correct ones for whichever neighborhood/time period you want to play.

One very distinct advantage of having brand spanking new computer: the game loads in 1 minute! I timed it. Unbelievable!

Phantomknight 27th Nov 2024 8:37 PM

Ok so Arundel is working now? That's great.

iforgot 27th Nov 2024 9:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Peni Griffin
There is a "story dilemmas" thread for that sort of thing

My apologises, I meant no harm and did not mean to offend.

Quote: Originally posted by Peni Griffin
, because collecting other people's opinions does help you realize what you want, and also opens up boxes you didn't realize you were thinking inside of; but in the end, it really does come down to: what's the most fun/most comfortable for the person playing the game?


Quote: Originally posted by Bulbizarre
It's your game. You have to decide for yourself.

I agree to both of these, but sometimes it's nice to collect other peoples thoughts on the matter.

Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Did the miscarriage stick when you played the pregnant sim's household? Some stuff that happens on community lots doesn't.

If I had saved, I believe it would have. Though, I didn't save so it didn't stick.

Quote: Originally posted by Phantomknight
And @iforgot, I can see both sides. On one hand, I'd be personally inclined to keep the miscarriage because the unexpected makes for better story sometimes, you know? Plus the sim must have been taking pretty poor care of themselves for that to happen and had very low motives. I'm surprised they didn't leave the lot before that happened.

On the other hand, I can see being upset if you were looking forward to the pregnancy--especially since you weren't in control at the time and couldn't even do anything about it! So it's not really a matter of right or wrong--as Bulbizarre said, it's your game. You do what you want in it. But it may be a good opportunity to think about how you might handle unexpected events going forward and what you might do if the sims aren't the current household. That way you can have some consistency in how you play--though again, it's your game. You don't have to be consistent. Even the most strict rule follower may break rules when it comes to their favorite sims. Sometimes when I need help making quick decisions in game, I roll a dice. And sometimes once I get that outcome, I know how I really feel and what I want to do.

You raise some valid points. I've never thought about rolling a dice before, interesting idea.

I think my problem is that I am a self confessed control freak, admittedly. I also do somewhat get 'attached' to my sims as sad as that sounds, I think it's happening more now because I've had to build the whole neighbourhood, from the families to the buildings they live in (started as a blank map template). So I 'know' every sim, and their families. Like that mother was born to the first family in the neighbourhood, albeit later as her parents were almost elders (she's second youngest, and the result of auto-woohoo risky pregnancies).

The problem is, I know and accept that 'these things happen', but I kinda didn't want it for her (It didn't fit the story, the plan, or anything). On the other hand, it has happened once before in this neighbourhood but for a different playable sim and I accepted it and built a little memorial in the cemetery for it. (I forgot to watch the mum!)

Hence my dilemma.

Anyhow, thanks for your input everyone, it's good food for thought!

FranH 27th Nov 2024 9:15 PM

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You don't have to apologize for being a "control freak' over your neighborhoods-I think everyone here is a bit like that-or we would not be still talking about a game 20 years old!

It's always up to the player what is is within their level or zone of comfort in the neighborhood. I've had miscarriages and deaths by childbirth-as sad as those things are, they do happen in real life and we can't always ignore them (as much as we would love to have them never happen)-the same goes with our created neighborhoods.

I guess it all comes down to what level of reality you can handle in your game. Some cannot support real life instances of hurt and suffering, and believe it is too close to comfort to put it into a game that you are ultimately in control of.

Quote:
Ok so Arundel is working now? That's great.


Oh, lord, it is working great and looking beautiful all at the same time! I did as suggested (swapped out folders) and it's exactly like it was when I last left it!

At bottom are two new pictures of one of the neighborhood houses and residents.
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pinkdynamite 27th Nov 2024 9:15 PM

So my Sim's neighbour just tried to set her up with the Pollination Technician...? I play using a multi-PT mod and it seems like one of them has become a townie (I found them under the "townie" menu using the SimBlender). Now my sim is furious at the PT because her hubby got abducted and came back pregnant. Should I be worried about this? I know you're not supposed to add PTs to a household so it's kind of worrysome that they're hanging around the neighbourhood waiting for dates.

iforgot 27th Nov 2024 11:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FranH
You don't have to apologize for being a "control freak' over your neighborhoods-I think everyone here is a bit like that-or we would not be still talking about a game 20 years old!

It's always up to the player what is is within their level or zone of comfort in the neighborhood. I've had miscarriages and deaths by childbirth-as sad as those things are, they do happen in real life and we can't always ignore them (as much as we would love to have them never happen)-the same goes with our created neighborhoods.

I guess it all comes down to what level of reality you can handle in your game. Some cannot support real life instances of hurt and suffering, and believe it is too close to comfort to put it into a game that you are ultimately in control of.

I don't think it was so much the reality aspect as it was the "wait, that wasn't my plan!"

Regarding control freak, oh that's not just over sims, that's pretty much everything for me. Why do you think I go through the trouble of using Gentoo as my OS? Because I want to control every single minor detail in how my computer is setup and configured.

And I'm currently waiting for simantics resource finder (takes ages) to finish searching for the overtime stuff from hatches mod - I enabled it and it said it paid the family "1,575" for overtime work, where in reality it added "1,575,000" to the household funds[1]. So, me being a control freak is going to go find where and why it is doing that, and fix it to give the correct amount that it said it was going to give. No one is allowed to cheat money.

[1] Edit: Found reason and fixed Sorry simmies! I think that sim hates me now, they can't become millionaires anymore by cheating.

grammapat 28th Nov 2024 2:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by CaliBrat
there have been a few times that I've wished that when you had a teen runaway it put them in their own household in the sim bin .. if you exited the lot and didn't bring them home .. though maybe get a message askin first what to do with them.. for them to "stay" on the lost, but can still be ran away .. or "leave" in which they'd get their own household

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I actually tried it: teen seemed to run away- but he just "ran away to home". The community lot closed and he showed up at home.

simsample 28th Nov 2024 10:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pinkdynamite
So my Sim's neighbour just tried to set her up with the Pollination Technician...? I play using a multi-PT mod and it seems like one of them has become a townie (I found them under the "townie" menu using the SimBlender). Now my sim is furious at the PT because her hubby got abducted and came back pregnant. Should I be worried about this? I know you're not supposed to add PTs to a household so it's kind of worrysome that they're hanging around the neighbourhood waiting for dates.

Multi PTs should be in the default household, not sure why yours is in the townie household!

kestrellyn 28th Nov 2024 1:20 PM

The Sim Blender also doesn't list a family as "townies" unless you specifically change the name in SimPE, so it's also possible that they just renamed the Default family.

Charity 28th Nov 2024 2:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by iforgot
You raise some valid points. I've never thought about rolling a dice before, interesting idea.


Rolling the dice still works if you're a control freak. XD You roll the dice, then when it hits the 'wrong' number you realise which one you really wanted to happen!

Quote: Originally posted by FranH
It's always up to the player what is is within their level or zone of comfort in the neighborhood. I've had miscarriages and deaths by childbirth-as sad as those things are, they do happen in real life and we can't always ignore them (as much as we would love to have them never happen)-the same goes with our created neighborhoods.


Except you can totally ignore those things in your game if you want to. XD

pinkdynamite 28th Nov 2024 4:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by simsample
Multi PTs should be in the default household, not sure why yours is in the townie household!

Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
The Sim Blender also doesn't list a family as "townies" unless you specifically change the name in SimPE, so it's also possible that they just renamed the Default family.

Three of the PTs show up in the Default family but one shows up in Townie. That's why I'm confused, it doesn't make sense for just one to show up there, and I haven't even touched them in SimPE. Is there a way to put them back into the Default family?

Charity 28th Nov 2024 5:41 PM

I have a weird thing where a hair shows up fine in bodyshop, the adult version doesn't show up in CAS, but the teen does. Anyone know what might cause that?

simmer22 28th Nov 2024 5:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Charity
I have a weird thing where a hair shows up fine in bodyshop, the adult version doesn't show up in CAS, but the teen does. Anyone know what might cause that?


Can think of a few reasons (thumbnails messed up, YA/A issue, issues with binning/familying or similar...), but it's difficult to say exactly what without looking at the files.

Which hair is it?

Justpetro 28th Nov 2024 7:18 PM

As for getting fond of sims - well, after controlling them from birth until death - that is why I have a retirement subhood

Bulbizarre 29th Nov 2024 2:36 AM

Question: Since I updated my GPU driver, I've been getting pink flashing a bit more than usual. Has anyone else ever had a specific version of their driver be flaky when it comes to the game?

AndrewGloria 29th Nov 2024 5:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Charity
I have a weird thing where a hair shows up fine in bodyshop, the adult version doesn't show up in CAS, but the teen does. Anyone know what might cause that?
If you make a teen with it in CAS, and then change them to an adult, do they still have the hair?

kestrellyn 29th Nov 2024 10:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pinkdynamite
Three of the PTs show up in the Default family but one shows up in Townie. That's why I'm confused, it doesn't make sense for just one to show up there, and I haven't even touched them in SimPE. Is there a way to put them back into the Default family?


If the PT is in a non-Default family, then some corruption of the PT files has already occurred. If you don't have any other active neighborhoods, it's fine, though - just move the PT character files into your neighborhood's Characters folder, and then you can move them into whatever family you like and it doesn't matter at all. If you want them to appear in other neighborhoods, you'll have to get a fresh, unmodified copy of them from wherever you downloaded them from and add those files to the new neighborhood's Characters folder, etc.

Bulbizarre 29th Nov 2024 10:57 AM

FWIW, I set the character files of NPCs to read-only after a similar mishap.

Charity 29th Nov 2024 11:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
Can think of a few reasons (thumbnails messed up, YA/A issue, issues with binning/familying or similar...), but it's difficult to say exactly what without looking at the files.

Which hair is it?


It's a Sims 4 hair that I converted. I am entirely willing to believe that I messed up somewhere; how could I tell? The hair isn't binned. It's in the custom bin.

Quote: Originally posted by AndrewGloria
If you make a teen with it in CAS, and then change them to an adult, do they still have the hair?


Yes. That's how I knew that the adult mesh was still working.

simsample 29th Nov 2024 11:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bulbizarre
Question: Since I updated my GPU driver, I've been getting pink flashing a bit more than usual. Has anyone else ever had a specific version of their driver be flaky when it comes to the game?

Yes, that's entirely possible! Check your graphics card settings, maybe something there has been updated with the new driver. Otherwise, you could try rolling back?

Phantomknight 29th Nov 2024 3:47 PM

Agree with simsample. There have been times when I don't update my graphics card driver for the very reason you describe Bulbizarre! (I mean, it's not like whatever improvements they made are for TS2.) If I notice that a particular driver seems to be bad, I roll back and wait a another release or two before trying to update again.

pinkdynamite 29th Nov 2024 4:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
If the PT is in a non-Default family, then some corruption of the PT files has already occurred. If you don't have any other active neighborhoods, it's fine, though - just move the PT character files into your neighborhood's Characters folder, and then you can move them into whatever family you like and it doesn't matter at all. If you want them to appear in other neighborhoods, you'll have to get a fresh, unmodified copy of them from wherever you downloaded them from and add those files to the new neighborhood's Characters folder, etc.

Just to be clear, I take their characters out of my Downloads folder and into the neighbourhood Character folder and then replace the old Download files with a copy of the existing characters from a fresh download?

Could you explain how this corruption might have happened so I can avoid it in the future?

Quote: Originally posted by Bulbizarre
FWIW, I set the character files of NPCs to read-only after a similar mishap.

Thank you, I'll try that next time.

kestrellyn 29th Nov 2024 7:20 PM

No, you move them out of your Downloads folder entirely and put them in the Characters folder. If you want them in other neighborhoods, too, you will need to put them in the Characters folder of those other neighborhoods. If you have an extra copy in the Downloads folder, there will be extra copies of those sims in your neighborhood, too.

Probably this happened due to messing around with the Sim Blender or another teleporter.


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