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Sunbee 29th Mar 2017 10:41 PM

So you have Pleasantview, Bluewater, and Riverblossom? Any downtown?

I could see Stella move downtown, pursuing her Journalism career, and trying to get to the point where she can run an expose on the vampires. Revenge!
What's Gilbert up to? My Gilbert tends to be pretty cosmopolitan, maybe he and Stella would hit it off, at least to the point of being eachother's plus-ones for social events. Maybe he'd start by giving her business advice and progress to other things.
Andrew would probably see Stella as a potential sugar-mama, would she see through him?

I'd probably use a placeholder in Gabe's situation. I've played families on school lots before (in neighborhoods without EA careers), and it's okay, just lock the home section off every morning or the kids will be over there instead of studying. A placeholder is easier, though, because you can cheat their motives up and all, rather than making them a fully functional household and playing them as sims. But, consider the mechanics of how Gabe gets paid, etc, and whether or not Jules wants a part-time job, because those are effected by how you set it up. So by using a placeholder, while playing Gabe and Jules, they'd hop on the bus/car pool, come home with homework and pay. If they live in the school, Jules brings home no homework and can't have a job, Gabe brings home no pay.

Phantomknight 30th Mar 2017 5:38 AM

So I have Pleasantview, Bluewater, Riverblossom, downtown, and the 3 default universities.

I'd like Stella to move downtown, too; I'd like to move some of my sims there, especially vampires. Nina would definitely convince Morty to move there. I'm just not sure I want to attempt such a major renovation project at the moment (the base downtown doesn't really fit my idea of a bustling city and doesn't have enough housing). I do really like the idea of her being a reporter, though, looking for ways to expose the truth. I had planned for the Brokes to move their criminal activity to Sim City once Dustin graduated, so she could work on writing about that too. I'll have to think of ways to simulate her gathering evidence.

Gilbert isn't really doing anything at the moment--mostly because that bakery is a pain in the butt to play and I was trying to get the rank up a few levels before selling it and downsizing. I swear that lot is cursed or something. Anywho, the main reason why I didn't consider pairing them together is that Denise is supposed to be an overbearing mama, with way too much involvement in her son's life. She's trying to set him up with a quiet sim who can cook, give her some grandkids, and help out at the bakery. I think Stella would be a little too headstrong to deal with that, but they haven't met yet, so who knows, maybe their chemistry is amazing. Anyway, since ACR says Stella's straight, eligible bachelors would be Leod McGreggor, Andrew Martin, Gabe--sorta (he and Patricia didn't have anything serious, or so he thought. After he and Cleo hooked up, major fights started. Patricia even moved out in a huff. But, now that I think about it, Patricia and Cleo also fought over Gilbert, who slept with each of them and that's when Patricia decided she'd had enough.); and then--geez, I think that's it. Mortimer and Morty both have plans, Daniel's dead (kitchen fire), Herb's dead (old age), Darren's in love with Cassandra, Don's locked up for a while, Checo is dead (Lisa murdered him after finding out about his affair with Kaylynn, though the town doesn't suspect foul play yet), John Burb left Jennifer for Kaylynn, Jason Greenman is becoming a plantsim and they (plantsims) live in seclusion in my game, Stephen's got his own mini challenge going on, and Malcolm just married the evil high witch. Wow. So that's everybody, 'cept for Gilbert; I've got no bin sims in this hood--a decision I'm seriously starting to regret. Maybe I'll put her on hold til I add Belladonna Cove?? Or she can stay single, I guess. I just just feel like I need more than a career for her story.

As for Gabe, I wasn't so concerned about money, jobs, and grades--the Goths are building and paying for the school in full. Once the school was up and running, tuition costs would cover Gabe's salary and lot maintenance. I was thinking more of how convenient/inconvenient it would be to make him actually live there, especially if he decides he wants to remarry and have more kids. The idea was that it'd be a boarding school, at least for some kids, so he wouldn't get a lot of time for himself. Plus running a school is a little demanding--I'm not sure if I could do that and focus on his home life. Jules would get automatic admission to the school, as daughter of the headmaster. I think she'd be okay, though a lack of job for her would mean a loss of a potential scholarship. Maybe if I closed the school for summer they'd have more time for themselves?

Sunbee 30th Mar 2017 6:05 AM

Oh, I wasn't thinking Stella would marry Gilbert. Just when she needed someone to go to a party with, or maybe some friends with benefits . . . not like Gilbert would want to marry anyway! Denise can do her conniving thing while Gilbert, obviously, hooks up with whatever ladies are interested in nothing too serious. Stella figures she'll get Morty back someday, if she even wants him by then, once she breaks the story on the vampires, and that nice old Tricou House is available, never mind that it's supposedly haunted, Stella knows all historic houses are haunted, nothing wrong with a bit of superstition, she'll put it on the annual Hallowe'en tour, her bit of community service . . .

Or not. It's your game after all!

I might have to do that with Sella someday, though.

Phantomknight 30th Mar 2017 6:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Sunbee
Oh, I wasn't thinking Stella would marry Gilbert. Just when she needed someone to go to a party with, or maybe some friends with benefits . . . not like Gilbert would want to marry anyway!


True enough, and with Dina about to be experimented on, I definitely don't have enough club-hopping socialites. By schmoozing with everyone in town, she could get scoops on stories like Checo's untimely death, the rash of robberies all over the city, the growing witches coven, and yes, the vampires . If she does this, though, I'll probably have to pair her up with a roommate so I don't play a household with just one sim. Or maybe I'll let her get custody of the kids.

Peni Griffin 30th Mar 2017 3:15 PM

Phantomknight, it may not suit you either, and I don't have a proper description of it up anywhere yet so you'd have to attach it to a throwaway hood to be sure, but I did just upload the empty Bigg City downtown neighborhood to SimsFileShare as a 600 followers gift for my simblr, so maybe you'd have less rebuilding to do with that than with the Maxis downtown? It has plenty of housing, anyhow, much of it suitable to convert to a rental. If you load it without townie suppressors in place it should add all the regular downtownies, including the Tricous dead and alive, and you could spawn their graves and send them to one of two available graveyards, and pick one of the rundown houses in the decrepit area that used to be the Good Part of Town to be their ancestral home if you wanted to, or there's room in that area to build your own. No basement and no lighting weirdness, but whatever you used would almost certainly be less glitchy.

Anyway, if you want to check it out, it's at http://simfileshare.net/download/207580/ . I'll be uploading it along with the populated version at some point, I hope before the end of the year, but I didn't want to do two separate upload threads that would be largely redundant. A few overview pictures are in the tumblr post where I shared it: http://penig.tumblr.com/post/158977...-i-got-to#notes

Essa 17th Apr 2017 1:16 PM

I recently started a new hood with 10 sims who had to "earn their home".
I have trouble with my farming family. Since running a farm requires people, Gaïa Thibodeau, Thomas her triplet brother, Aimé Lamour and Emma Saurel moved in together.
Gaïa is the head of the household since she has more experience in gardening.
Thomas doesn't help much with the farm since he's working on improving the life of the inhabitants with technology (water and electricity).

I'm a bit lost with Aimé (10-2-6-3-5 Romance/Popularity) and Emma (9-2-6-3-5 Popularity/Family).
They're in a relationship. Emma proposed to Aimé who foolishly said "yes".
Since then he always had the fear of marry Emma. To make things worst, they now have three children (1 toddler and twin babies). They have their mother surname.

They're not really affectionate even if they woohoo.
Emma badly wants to get married while Aimé is more a free lover who dislikes kids.

Gameplay-wise, I use some of the BACC rules to start and aim for a kind of integrated hood. Townies are not allowed yet and I can't extend the farm. It counts 3 rooms.

1. Should Aimé leave like a thief in the night with no explanation?
2. Should he and Emma confront each other and break up before he leaves?
3. Should they stay together?

gummilutt 17th Apr 2017 9:35 PM

What kind of Sim is Aimé, aside from romance/popularity? Is he mature? Responsible? Is he the kind of free lover that knows he is and is open about it, that genuinely thought he could do marriage with Emma or is he out of touch with himself and going with his whims?

If you perceive him as more mature and in tune with himself, I would say he and Emma should confront each other and talk it out til they reach the conclusion they are happier apart. If you perceive him as more immature and not aware of his own feelings and needs, and likely to follow whims, I'd make him leave like a thief in the night. I'd say Emma is better off with someone who wants the same things she does, that will give her what she wants, and Aimé is better off living the free loving life he actually wants and would be comfortable with.

Or perhaps he has a little accident when fixing the broken dishwasher and suddenly finds that he's lost his free love attitude because it re-wired his brain to a new aspiration of your choice.

Astha123 18th Apr 2017 1:46 PM

Aimè could sneak off, but at the new place, he could have an accident and forget about his children, friends and fiance. Then the family could somehow return his memory, maybe by making an offering to you, their god.

Astha123 20th Apr 2017 3:02 PM

Dilemma!

Backstory: Arielle (A cop) and Maressa (A florist with a business) adopted their daughter, Marelda. As a teen, Marelda died (Suicide) but Arielle saved her. Marelda had drunk a lot of poison, though, and died a second time. Arielle was at work and Maressa's energy was in red and she was asleep. They got a Resurrect-O-Nomitron and 14,000 Simoleons from Marelda's friend. Marelda was fine and made it to college with the friend (Emma) and her girlfriend (Jaiden), but she and the friend died. Jaiden dropped out because she wanted to be a slacker.

Arielle and Maressa lost the Resurrect-O-Nomitron. Their grieving wasn't finished, but Maressa still decided to open the business daily and Arielle practiced to get to the top of her career. Ariel was prejudiced against zombies. When Maressa let a zombie buy stuff (Like always), Ariel was irritated. Then the zombie attacked the cashier. The cashier was fine, but this angered Arielle immensely. Arielle and Maressa fought over it constantly.

Their marriage worsened. The fights got worse when they brought Marelda's death into it. They even attacked each other. Maressa got sick, but the fights continued. Eventually Maressa died. Arielle didn't feel much because of how much they hated each other. Arielle gave the house and Maressa's business to some orphan teen and moved to a huge house on the hills because she was rich (Top rank in job).

Arielle adopted a kitten and changed her aspiration from Family to Money to forget about her past. With her new aspiration, she got a new Lifetime Wish, which is to be The Law. She's dating a townie called Ashley Louie.

What should I do with her now?
1. Pursue being The Law. (She has the Elixir of Life so age isn't a problem.)
2. Start a new family.
3. Become a cat lady.
4. Start a new business.
5. Something else.

Phantomknight 21st Apr 2017 2:51 AM

@ Essa, I hope it's not too late for some more advice! At first, I thought the leaving like a thief in the night option was the best choice, if only for the drama. But the more I thought about it, the more I wondered about Aime. He's romance and popularity. Straight up leaving (maybe to find a better love match) might only be considering one aspect of his personality. So what else is he like? From his stats I see he's fairly shy and not a mean guy. He might be active enough to get up and change his fate, but he is a romance and popularity sim. He's got a strong desire to be loved and well liked by everyone. How would the neighborhood react if he left? Would they not care or consider it an affront to the very values and lifestyle they want to build the town with? What's the story behind your hood and what are the options for Aime if he does leave?

Maybe, feeling stuck he decides to stay and try the family thing. Having a good reputation in town might be important to him and his political aspirations might push him to try and create the picture-perfect family. So maybe he gets married only to have a mid-life crisis down the road. Maybe that turns into a town scandal or affair. Or he takes off to search the world for true love. Or he starts a whole new family with someone more compatible and pretends his old family doesn't exist. (What's his LTW anyway?) Or maybe he doesn't get married, holding out as long as he can before he finally decides, at the altar, that he can't go through with the marriage. And Emma might not take any of this well. She's fairly shy too--is she the type to stew in anger until she snaps or is she more easy-going and forgiving? Maybe she decides to leave him in the quest for family and someone to grow old with. Again, LTW might be helpful here. But maybe there's a tragic accident during a violent storm (or plague, or fire, or drought, etc.) that changes everyone's life forever. So, you know, think on things a bit. How does this story fit into the overall hood story; what new family dynamics haven't you tried or done in a while; do you even like all of these sims, etc.?


@Astha123, Arielle already seems like she has enough motivation to use the law to start a crusade against zombiekind. Maybe the feelings of resentment start to extend to all supernatural and she vows to fight/stamp out them all (I'm always in favor of a good supernatural war ). But maybe it goes the opposite direction. Maybe after deaths and strained relationships, she decides to put herself first all the time, becoming more selfish. Maybe the deaths she witnessed has cause her to become paranoid about her own death, leading her to get addicted to the elixer of life and forcing her to find other ways to extend her life. Maybe she finds a way to stay young forever, becoming a vampire obsessed with power, who lives to enslave zombie-ghouls.
Or maybe she just uses her wealth to start a health clinic for troubled teens. Idk. What's her personality like? Her interests?

Astha123 21st Apr 2017 12:39 PM

@Phantomknight I like the 'addicted to life elixir part'. While waiting for suggestions, I got Ashley to move in, though Arielle and Ashley aren't married. Arielle is using Ashley as an extra source of income. After getting enough money to feel more financially secure than she already is, she'll probably start trying to become The Law. Till then, she'll try to influence powerful people to start making anti-zombie laws since she is Captain Hero.

I don't see the health clinic happening because of Arielle's personality (6-5-8-3-3).

EDIT: Arielle got three cowplants as gifts from some friends. She's left them outside so zombies grab the cake.

Essa 25th Apr 2017 10:11 PM

Just popping in to say that I'm still at lost with Aimé.

While I was playing an other household, this is how he acted on community lot (pictures under spoiler).


Those sims are new to me. Their story usually unfold as I play them. My hood doesn't really have a backstory.
It's just another bunch of sims who decided to build a city from the ground. Let's see what will happen during their journey?
I see Aimé as a mature guy who would confront Emma. I'm not sure of the output thought, but I think I should reroll his traits or/and his aspirations unless I throw a random scenario.
I think I'll play the household more to see if I can get a better feel of Aimé. Wish me luck. I dread playing this farming lot.

I'll keep you updated as soon as I'll add the chance to launch the game.

Phantomknight 25th Apr 2017 11:02 PM

@ Essa, it seems like Aimé is just afraid of commitment. Perhaps he just likes the idea of having options, though he doesn't intend to use them. It's like he doesn't mind being in a relationship, just can't stand to put labels on anything. He probably wants things to stay exactly as they are. (Romance doesn't always equal anti-baby--especially if it's not the romance sim's baby! ) But to really know for sure, I would suggest having him hang around Emma and someone he has better chemistry with, at the same time. Then you'll see how much he really likes Emma.

His fear of marriage could also just be the romance sim coding.

gummilutt 27th Apr 2017 6:32 PM

God damn game seems determined that every household of mine should have babies right now My Sim Alicia Flex is pregnant with twins, courtesy of a car woohoo with her fiance Henrik. I could have sworn I set her to can't get pregnant on ACR AND turned on inteen birth control with no fail birthcontrol flavor pak so she'd be covered regardless of woohoo-type, but apparently it wasn't enough. And twins! Why ACR, why! xD

Alicia is pleasure, Henrik is romance. I don't see either of them as Sims who want children, and they only just got engaged. They aren't even living together yet. So now question is, what do I do. I see three options

1. Cancel pregnancy, give her abortion memory and that's that.

2. Let it continue, but have her miscarry.

3. Keep the pregnancy, but give the babies up for adoption.
A) Give them to the orphanage, and let them be raised there.
B) Private adoption to another Sim in the hood. Alicias brother Max just had an accidental pregnancy with his girlfriend Elna, and just like this couple I didn't think it was time for babies. Abortion just didn't seem right for them, so I decided on private adoption. In the original version of my hood, Elna's family was good friends with two other families, one of which I decided to cut in the last few re-makes of the hood to try and speed things up. I decided to pretend that family moved away, but their daughter Julia (who just happened to be an infertile family Sim ) one day decided to return to the town where she was born. Perfect candidate to give their child a new home. So she adopted their daughter, who just turned toddler. Now I'm thinking, Julia comes from a family that had 5 children so maybe she wants a whole heap of kids herself. And who better than the cousins of her current adopted daughter?

I'm leaning towards option 2 or one of the 3's. Alicia just used the genie lamp to wish for money, and I'm hoping that'll provoke a burglary (my hood burglar almost exclusively hits houses with pregnant Sims or newborn babies in them, he's quite awful in that sense ). Henrik is chief of the police, so I'm thinking Alicia finding out she's pregnant and getting burglar'd is a great story-line to explain why he would want to move in with her (he's a downtownie at the moment). Question is, does he move in to take care of her when she miscarries, or to take care of her through the pregnancy? I also feel like Henrik would come off poorly to the community if he leaves his kids in the orphanage, so for his sake 3A might not be the best choice.

Thoughts?

Phantomknight 28th Apr 2017 12:41 AM

Any other personality traits besides aspiration, gummilutt? Cuz, for me this type of decision really depends on the sim and the plans I had for him or her. For example, for my Kimberly Cordial (at least I think it's Kimberly. Which ever Cordial that's supposed to be evil. ), I gave her a romance secondary and her LTW is to woohoo 20 sims. I said ok, thinking she'd have plenty of affairs on her way to becoming a powerful evil witch. But she got pregnant with the first guy she slept with. She was on birth control too. I let her terminate the pregnancy, giving her a pass, but it kept happening (with the same guy no less. Let it be known that Craig Ray makes an excellent sperm donor), so I'm writing it into her story. She had the baby but gave it up for adoption, not feeling like she's in a good place to take of it, but it's riddling her with guilt.

She's been listless, unable to focus and having a hard time progressing in her magic studies or in her career. Sammantha, meanwhile, is crushing it at life, succeeding in the corporate world, job hopping to get career rewards, maxing her magic, and dating prominent sims like Rutherford and DeBateau. Seeing her sister struggle has made her realize that Kimberly probably won't be able to reach her full magical potential and that Kimberly needs strong guidance. So Samantha has taken steps to form a coven without her sister, including "encouraging" Timothy Riley, who's looking to get in the supernatural world, to go after Kimberly, with whom he has good chemistry. Sammantha wants them to marry, knowing that once Kimberly has a stable, healthy family life, the couple will seriously consider adopting Kimberly's daughter back.

TL;DR: I used the orge mod to "hold" the baby for safe keeping until Kimberly's ready to raise it. If you don't care about syncing ages, this might be a good option. Or if you do care, you could always age up the babies when you take them back in and build that separation and neglect into the story. Or, since its going to be twins, you could even separate the siblings, one being kept, one being adopted. See how that family dynamic goes.

If Alicia and Henrik are engaged, I don't really see a reason they shouldn't have kids unless you, as the player don't want a baby around at the moment or unless you're trying to start some drama. Like what if Alicia has an abortion/gives the babies up, letting some other couple adopt, but Henrik doesn't know? He finds out years later and is super pissed about it. Like, he doesn't particularly want kids right now, but wouldn't push them away if they turned up. So Alicia's decision made without him could wreck their marriage and his trust for her.

The burglary & chief of police thing are also intriguing to me. Perhaps instead of a burglary, it's a kidnapping? Got any supernaturals or unsavory characters in need of a minion? Or a sim super desperate to have a baby?

FranH 28th Apr 2017 12:16 PM

In my game, Dustin Broke has been fired from the criminal career, for getting caught in a bust. Now what does he do? He's married to Angela (at long last) but he's at sea trying to figure out what kind of job he should get. The criminal lifestyle was the only one he ever knew. Didn't go to college, and doesn't really have a real interest in working, so he's collecting welfare. I'm stumped as to how to resolve this one. Perhaps a job in gardening?

Simchrony 28th Apr 2017 1:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FranH
In my game, Dustin Broke has been fired from the criminal career, for getting caught in a bust. Now what does he do? He's married to Angela (at long last) but he's at sea trying to figure out what kind of job he should get. The criminal lifestyle was the only one he ever knew. Didn't go to college, and doesn't really have a real interest in working, so he's collecting welfare. I'm stumped as to how to resolve this one. Perhaps a job in gardening?


He was in which level of the criminal career when he got fired? He could conferfeit money at home (using the aspiration reward) if he was in the Counterfeiter level or above. Or use the implied sales expertise from certain levels (Bagman, Con Artist, Smuggler) to open a honest/legal (or not so honest/legal) business. He can also try the slacker career, considering he doesn't really like to work.

Peni Griffin 28th Apr 2017 2:02 PM

Dustin could return to the criminal career, or take the next job that comes up in the paper, find ways to make money at home - painting pictures, writing crime thrillers, market gardening - or hustle for money on community lots, or he could be a househusband and stay home with the kids while Angela brings home the bacon.

Sunbee 28th Apr 2017 7:20 PM

FranH, a bunch of the careers have really generic low level jobs. Do you use a job stoping hack for sims who shouldn't get promoted? Seems like the low level of culinary, slacker, or music would be good for him. No skills, he can work at a gas station, or a record store, no real possibility for promotion but he can't stay on unemployment forever. Or he could work in a playable's store, maybe he gets a job as cashier, steals some money, gets caught . . .

FranH 28th Apr 2017 11:51 PM

I have the pay mod by whoward that has that option, and I think I'm gonna play him like a guy who just barely escaped being caught in the system, and start him back in the culinary career. Because he's not had any formal job training, he has to start over again, in a legitimate job. He still has a LTW of becoming a Criminal Mastermind, but given how he's trying to turn his life around to show that he's truly reformed, it's best to stick to reality, sort of. Although he could indulge in his hobby, gardening, also.

It just wouldn't do if he went back to the criminal career, given that his wife is in the military and hoping to become General one day....he's so earnest about doing better than what he has done. His want is to "get a job", not a specific one-so that gives me a little license to steer him.

Justpetro 29th Apr 2017 12:39 AM

Well, not everyone gets his or her dream job in RL anyway, but can still be quite happy in a different career Somebody who likes numbers may be pretty happy as an accountant even if there was a time she or he wanted to become a photographer or something. I won't hold his criminal background against him, give the pixel a chance

Devon Aster 29th Apr 2017 1:53 AM

That kinda reminds me of what happened with Faith Goodie. In one hood, I experimented with aging Faith and Herbert down to teens and playing them back up to elders. Since Faith had a LTW to be a Criminal Mastermind, I tried to get her into that track. She stayed in for a little while but she pretty quickly rolled a want to quit when she got into writing books. I decided to let her quit and life pretty much took over from there. She and Herbert had two children, which she stayed home to take care of while continuing to write and garden. When the youngest turned teen, she rolled a want to go into the Oceanography career. Eventually, both she and Herbert became plantsims. She always seemed very happy in life, in spite of never reaching her LTW. I interpreted it as her having a dark side or criminal impulses that she spent her life overcoming, wanting to be a better person. Since she had daily wants that were easily filled with her hobbies and family, it would never be necessary for her to reach her LTW to die in platinum aspiration.

joandsarah77 29th Apr 2017 5:25 AM

My town's romance sim got herself knocked up by a college student (she is about 40) what should I do with the baby? Give it to her adult daughter? The orphanage? I can't see her wanting to keep it.

Astha123 29th Apr 2017 10:19 AM

@joandsarah77 She could give it to the orphanage. Wanting to meet the child or not depends.

Update on Arielle Alceroyzertimeemtz (Don't ask about the last name): Kitten grew up, new cat was adopted, they both bred because why not. Arielle finally started her law career. She was already friends with the Senator before.

Orphalesion 29th Apr 2017 12:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by joandsarah77
My town's romance sim got herself knocked up by a college student (she is about 40) what should I do with the baby? Give it to her adult daughter? The orphanage? I can't see her wanting to keep it.


How would the daughter react? What's her personality? Is she the type who'd gladly take care of the child? Or the type who'd see it as her duty? Does the daughter have a family of her own?

I think the daughter option could lead to some great drama potential.


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