Damn, I think my new neighborhood is doomed from the start >_<

Made some Sims to populate an island and what did I see? A toddler with a lifetime want (as seen on e.g. Pauline Aspir)
I aged that Sim down from adult in CAS without giving her an aspiration... i thought that would not be a problem? All other toddlers don't have a lifetime want, but i made them via creat a baby (don't know if that's the right translation)

So the question is: problematic or not? I would play that neighborhood anyway, but... well, maybe not long enough to build up a new civilisation... and that's my goal.

Did you delete any sims? You can't make an adult sim in CAS without an aspiration the game won't let you.

No, I didn't delete a sim. I know that would make my neighborhood went into a BFBVFS.

I created that sim in CAS and aged her down right there.

I don't know that I have a good answer for you, but since this is the stupid/random questions thread...I'll mention something that I did to stop premade toddler Pauline Aspir's possession of an LTW from bothering me (I play Tarlia's megahood). Please note that if anyone wants to jump in, I'd really like feedback on the overall effectiveness of this technique.

I went into SimPE and deleted just Pauline's SWAF (Sim Wants and Fears) record. This reset her aspiration to Grow Up in the game (it was already shown as Grow Up in SimPE). From what I read, it also had the effect of erasing her memory, not the memories you can see in the sim's Memories panel but the sort of hidden memories that make individual sims behave depending on how you've played them. But since she was only a toddler and hadn't been played, that part didn't seem as important to me.

Afterward, she sometimes had a blank want slot or two as a toddler. But I figured that was because I removed any "instincts" she should have had as a toddler when I deleted her SWAF then. And she behaved like any other toddler. She's now a child and hasn't had any further LTW or wants/fears strangeness; her slots are always full and are appropriate to people she knows and things a child would want.

Pretty sure this did not really fix any corruption that might have resulted in Pauline getting that LTW in the first place, unless, I guess, the only corruption was to her SWAF record. But I don't know enough about how the game works under the hood to make a remotely educated guess about whether that was/could be true.

So for what it's worth, the cosmetic issue of it can be fixed fairly quickly. What repercussions that has, I don't know. If I see down the road that she is the center of a Big Fiery Ball Visible from Space...well, that's why I backed up before I did it (and plenty since, though the pre-SWAF-removal backup is now clearly labeled "Unedited Pauline" so I can find it).

Only one want - I will not break my head about corruption yet (I don't know everything, but I do know that, when my one hood got corrupted, every single Sim, all ages, were having typical Fortune Sims wants).

I'm not an expert and I hope someone who is more knowledgeable about this stuff can confirm whether I'm right, but IF I remember correctly what others have posted elsewhere: It's apparently a common thing for toddlers to have a LTW if they were aged DOWN from a teen or older stage that started with a LTW (I'm guessing the game doesn't reset something properly?). The corruption symptom is when you have a toddler that aged UP from a baby and starts out with a LTW.

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Hm! If that's true, it could certainly explain why my Pauline Aspir had an LTW when I first opened their house. Because who knows what Maxis did with her---maybe they had made her a teen in the first place, right? And of course I love the idea that her LTW wasn't a sign of corruption.

On the other hand, even if true, could it at all explain HA's issue with that toddler LTW? Because the thing is, I thought that CAS sims weren't initialized in the game until they were placed in the neighborhood, right, so why would it matter how that player operated CAS to get a toddler, whether aging down a sim they started in CAS as adult or rolling the CAS pacifier?

I wish I could remember whether I've created child or toddler sims that way in CAS---making them out of sims I first started making as adults. But I just don't. Does anyone else?

(I also am hoping that someone will come along who can verify that only in-game aging up to a toddler/child and showing an LTW that wasn't there before is a sign of corruption, yet not so when the aging's been done from a properly LTW-having stage. It sure does make intuitive sense, so it would be cool if it were true. BTW, I'm sorry, mdsb...I don't have any idea about your question. I hope someone else will.)

All hoods that come shipped with the game come already corrupted. Not sure what hood or sim that is since I don't play pre-mades but base game hoods are worse than later ones but even they are corrupted. So anything you see in them that seems odd probably is corruption. I noticed you bumped up the mega hood thread so if you are using cleaned up versions it may be okay. I hope you are playing the cleaned up mega hood since it's much better than the old Mega hood; or so I have read, I only play custom hoods.

Yes, no worries. I play Tarlia's, though it's her preconstructed one, which she acknowledged still had problems that she'd fixed in her even better templates (those ones that have to be manually stuck together to build a megahood). So you know, a (likely noteworthy) degree of cleanliness beyond the uberhood available here, but still not the cleanest available, especially in comparison to the empty and clean templates that Jawusa here has been working on .

I take corruption with a grain of salt, for the sake of my own sanity as a dedicated player. I know it's more likely than not. I do everything I can to prevent it, but I also accept that eventually it may happen anyway. Meanwhile, I backup often and use HoodChecker on every backup. And I no longer place any downloaded lot or even lot I'd previously built myself into a hood before stripping its sim references in a throwaway empty hood using Jawusa's method. I'm sure there's always even more one can do, but at some point one has to balance convenience and practicality against protectiveness.

That's the best attitude, be careful but don't get so worried you stop playing.

Also it's good to see a new 'face' posting on the sims 2 boards. Us old guard have been here so long we need some new blood er um posters!

How do you count the generations?

I've always started with the first ones as 1, with the first BIGs as gen 2 but from what I've noticed, some people start at 0 with the first BIGs as gen 1. *insert confused smilie here*

Some people count the first line of created sims as FOUNDERS. Then you'll have the first, second, and so on generations.

So, I want to have all the pre-made playable YA's (e.g. Heather Huffington, Roxie Sharpe, Francis Worthington etc.) from each of the three Universities, but I only want one Uni. I know I can do this by adding all three Unis, then deleting two of them, and the game will chuck them all into one Student Bin. But will this also give me three times the amount of Dormies, too? I really don't want 3x dormies....

I had problems a while back with toddlers and children from the sim bin having LTWs; some of the sim bin adults also had LTWs not consistent with the ones the wiki said they should have. I was using a mix of Tarlia's templates and empty templates. It was just as I started my current 'hood and I had a really hard time recreating the problem consistently in test hoods - I only got the problem to repeat once despite creating lots of test hoods. I think it may have had to do with the order I'd created sims in CAS and played, added subhoods, created more sims, and moved the sim bin families into my town, but I finally gave up testing it. Maybe the computer had just sneezed as the neighbourhoods were being created. Hoodchecker wasn't showing a problem, and aside from the LTW the children seemed normal and had normal toddler and child wants. When they aged to teen I still had the option to give them any aspiration, and I used simblender to reroll their LTW just in case it stayed stuck on the one they'd had as children. I decided to just play and enjoy my neighbourhood as it is, keep backups, and hope for the best. I've been playing that 'hood for months now, and my game is currently running well and hood checker is still not showing any problems.

Thanks, jo. I'm glad to have stopped lurking.



It does not in my UC game; I've added and deleted unis similarly a few times. But I also use nodormieregen by Pescado, and I don't know if that is making a difference there.

Side note: I also have been using TwoJeff's Dormie Gender Controller , which seems to work fine if it loads after nodormieregen. Mainly I'm using the DGC for one of its side functions: it forces the game to randomize among dormies instead of always adding the same ones to your dorm. However, I also like that loading it last means it overrides Pes' mod in the specific event that your dormie pool is completely booked (to other dorms or married to playables or whatever) yet you still have an unclaimed Myne door. TJ's mod allows just one dormie (for each unclaimed Myne door) to be created in that case.

That's a nice extra for someone like me, who doesn't love creating sims, especially not to just be townies. I mention it because I find it a nice compromise between having no new dormies ever, as Pes' mod makes it, and getting dormies made only on a case-by-case basis, when I really do need a new one or few.



Really appreciate you sharing, stitching! This is why I asked, in fact---I think the more we understand about corruption the better off we are, even though it's important not to let fears of it ruin our games. Very interesting that it was not a consistently reproducible glitch.

My experience, using Tarlia's preconstructed megahood, was the same as far as Hoodchecker: no problem shown despite the toddler LTW.

Glad to hear that the toddler LTW did not stop you from giving sims a teen aspiration or from rerolling the LTW at teen. A big part of why I deleted my Pauline Aspir's SWAF was because I didn't want to play her to the child-to-teen transition...and then find out that she glitched unplayably because of already having an LTW. Between thinking I might have to delete the SWAF at that later point (if I could still use her at all) and going ahead and deleting it while she was an unplayed toddler, I chose the latter so that she'd have more of a chance to get memories again. But it sounds like I could have just gone on without removing her SWAF at all, as long as her having an LTW too early did not bother me.

So all great to know. Thank you.

I do not know if it is dangerous - but deleting two unis should leave all the students in the bin.

Is it feasible to create two download folders? I want to do a medieval challenge without my download folder exploding.

Yes, but rather than two separate downloads folders, I'd recommend two separate copies of user files. Aside from the NPC-containing CC that cause corruption if removed, there's also the inconveniencing things like custom objects that store information and custom memories. For example visitor controller, monique's computer, the produce packing stations, and so on. In the past I used to take out my downloads folder when I wanted to troubleshoot something in my test hood, and occasionally I'd accidentally load my regular hood by reflex, and that meant all bank accounts were wiped and any packed produce lost. Very frustrating.

So now I have several The Sims 2 folders, that I rename when not using. Less hassle, and less room for mistakes.

Thank you. That makes sense so I'll start trying to think of the first ones as founders, instead of 1st gens.

Okay, so just to make sure I'm straight (I have slow days lol), just have two The Sims 2 folders? I think we can generate new ones.

Yes. Rename your current The Sims 2 folder to something else, for example The Sims 2 - Modern, and run the game. It will generate a new copy, that you can then use for your medieval things. You'll have to re-activate downloads in the new copy. Then when you want to use your old things, just rename the medieval one to The Sims 2 - Medieval or something like that

THANK YOU! My downloads folder (soon to be modern) just keeps growing. Why do people have so many wonderful mods and objects! Now if I can just get app.box to stop being a jerk.

Thanks. I guess I'll have to fix Vincent's pottery shop when I get back to the game. I have items on shelves so customers still can buy items there.

Can you tell by looking in Sim PE whether a particular item is animated or not? I'd love to put some animals in my game that I THINK aren't animated, but I have no idea if they are or not. The creator has long disappeared from the Sim community, and does not indicate the item is decorative, which is usually a giveaway.

My policy is that unless the creator states the item is not a custom NPC (Sunni does that, thankfully), unless I really, really want the item (which I do, sometimes), I don't take the chance.