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gummilutt 22nd Aug 2023 2:45 AM

It says I have 0.75.69 so not sure what that translates to in letters, but yes I also noticed the fact that the layout frequently gets messed up so that reset button is very necessary. Sometimes I have had to restart as not even reset button can bring back the missing parts. And mine also had issues with where the games are installed, it did find them but it had jumbled the order of the earlier EPs and one of the SPs. But easy enough to change the order of that, it hasn't seemed to re-jumble them after I corrected it. But lots of little issues, like the BCON label not working. And I also keep having the buttons at the bottom (plugin view, finder, description etc those tabs) become unclickable so I can't switch. It opens on description and sometimes I can't switch away, making it impossible to do anything. Yesterday had to restart three times before I was able to switch to plugin view.

So far not impressed with 0.75, might try 0.73 instead and see if I get on better with that one.

simmer22 22nd Aug 2023 5:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by gummilutt
It says I have 0.75.69 so not sure what that translates to in letters


I have a version before that (possibly the last one before CH started poking around in the files). I think it was while Quaxi (or whomever it was, can't remember) had come back and was doing some quick updates, then left.

I'd assume it's the "SimPE 0.75f-QA" version on the front page, but at the time there was a lot of forth-and-back with testing.

CatherineTCJD 22nd Aug 2023 3:01 PM

That's the one I have "QA" - aka, the one before CH. (on my big 'rig')

...buuuut, I just realized I have 73.44.37603 on my lap-top.
I never noticed a difference - but I don't do a lot of CAS stuff either.
Just mainly reprice/recat and walls/floors/recolors/etc.

simmer22 22nd Aug 2023 4:45 PM

If it was possible to properly re-dock/reorganize the windows in the version I now have into something that resembled a sensible UI, I'd be satisfied. It was (to some degree, anyway) possible to redock windows in 0.73.

But 0.75F goes absolutely nuts if you move more than one window around, and you can't even put it where you want it to be, because it thinks *move to bottom window* means *splitscreen with Plugin view*, the little thumb-tack means *show ALL items that have thumb-tack icons on the screen NOW* and *move to middle screen* means *AAAAAAH I DON'T KNOW!!!--- white screen of death---* or something like that, anyway . The things I can somewhat reliably do is to hide a couple items I don't need, and slide the screens bigger and smaller.

Is the 0.75.69 any better with that?

lingeringwillx 27th Aug 2023 11:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by gummilutt
I'm having issues with 0.75 being unable to generate functional labels for a BCON (see picture below). Is that something someone has had and been able to fix? I still have 0.72 and I was able to generate them there, but it is kind of tedious to need to swap SimPE version in the middle of making something. I read the post by simmer22 mentioning UI issues, but like HL I do not quite understand what UI files she's referring to copying over so I'm not sure what to do with the information, and searching the thread I found nothing about BCONs, TRCNs or labels. Fingers crossed someone knows a solution


I think the only way would be to extract and import any TRCN from another file and then change the group and instance to match the BCON.

Sims2Maven 14th Oct 2023 6:36 AM

I'm currently using SimPE 0.75.69.23[QA] (last one before the raunch set in), and I've noticed it doesn't correctly translate some things - particularly career names. "Education" is misspelled "Eductaion", "Oceanography" is misspelled "Ocenography", "Architecture" is miscalled "Construction". The "Popularity" Aspiration is miscalled "Reputation", and "Pleasure" is "Fun". It's also downright lousy at picking up on custom majors and careers. (And as for Lifetime Wants, it massively bombs on those.)

All of this is correctable by exporting to a spreadsheet and delousing the spreadsheet, but it's an awful lot of work to have to go through. When and if someone produces an updated non-raunch version, I hope they'll pay attention to some of these details.

simsample 14th Oct 2023 5:28 PM

@Sims2Maven There is a version by Chris Hatch, that they seem to have replaced on their SFS (so it's no longer linked on the first post), that I uploaded here:
https://modthesims.info/showthread....588#post5810588
Don't know if you saw that one, it had some improvements but no 'raunch' Not sure if the issues you mentioned are fixed, perhaps you'd care to take a look?

Sims2Maven 14th Oct 2023 11:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by simsample
@Sims2Maven There is a version by Chris Hatch, that they seem to have replaced on their SFS (so it's no longer linked on the first post), that I uploaded here:
https://modthesims.info/showthread....588#post5810588
Don't know if you saw that one, it had some improvements but no 'raunch' Not sure if the issues you mentioned are fixed, perhaps you'd care to take a look?


Did they back the numbers down in the process of "updating"? 0.75.69.23 > 0.75.69.17.

simsample 15th Oct 2023 2:00 AM

I have no idea as they did not seem to release a changelog, but I do remember that at some point some updates seem to have been backtracked (perhaps they reverted to older code for some reason?). Also, the latest version seems to be 77.69.8 and source code for that too, so you could always de-raunch and correct the labels yourself if you know how. Chris Hatch seems to have stopped updating a year ago, I haven't heard of anyone else taking it on.

Sims2Maven 15th Oct 2023 2:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by simsample
you could always de-raunch and correct the labels yourself if you know how

Oh yeah, that's always the catch. "If you know how". I'm a graphics person, not a programmer - very good at making hair and clothing recolors, but an absolute doofus at anything more complicated.

Chris Hatch 16th Oct 2023 6:04 AM

I lost interest in Sims2 a little over two and a half years ago when my wife passed away (because my wife passed away).
I have however continued to update SimPe occasionally. Current version is 0.77.69.9 (updated today). I do take note of comments here so for example this version will open large neighbourhoods very fast and reliable compared to previous versions. It does that by recognising when you open a neighbourhood and changing the settings to suit so it doesn't try to parse everything at once.

simsample 16th Oct 2023 11:58 AM

Hi @Chris Hatch Good to see you here again, very sad to hear about your wife, my condolences.

Glad to hear you are still working on SimPE, it's a tool still used a lot so much appreciated! I am currently using 75.68.21 SimPE which was the one where you added the ability to change the UID in a dropdown box.

Do you have any ideas on the organizational problems that people are seeing? I have this occur quite often too, I do keep an older version of Quaxi's SimPE installed too for cases where I need to change the layout.

maxon 16th Oct 2023 2:20 PM

Oh hey Chris - also sorry to hear about your wife. My condolences too.

CatherineTCJD 16th Oct 2023 2:50 PM

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Quote: Originally posted by Chris Hatch
Current version is 0.77.69.9 (updated today).

I am glad to see you here; and add my condolences too.
Thank you for continuing to update SimPE!

I just clicked the link - and it doesn't look updated to me? Did I go to the wrong place?

maxon 16th Oct 2023 3:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by CatherineTCJD
I am glad to see you here; and add my condolences too.
Thank you for continuing to update SimPE!

I just clicked the link - and it doesn't look updated to me? Did I go to the wrong place?

I think it's the second one - I think that Chris just forgot to update the 75 number. That's the one I just DL anyway

simsample 16th Oct 2023 5:28 PM

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If you click on the actual downloads, you'll see that the files are updated:


CatherineTCJD 16th Oct 2023 8:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by simsample
If you click on the actual downloads, you'll see that the files are updated:


Ah! Thank you!!!

Gah...

mrcsthernr 17th Oct 2023 4:29 PM

Adding my condolences and appreciation for the updates.

Sims2Maven 18th Oct 2023 3:12 AM

Condolences here also. I know what it's like to lose a life partner - it sucks bigtime. Thanks for the update...are the naughty pictures optional (or can they be made so), or do they only show up if you have the unofficial packs (Angels & Nurses, T&A)? That sort of thing just doesn't turn me on. (cishet F, if anyone wants to know)

Justpetro 18th Oct 2023 11:00 AM

Also widowed, adding my condolences. Wishing you strength.

FranH 18th Oct 2023 6:30 PM

I'm sending condolences as well, Chris. It is sometimes very hard to get back into any hobby when someone you love dies.

Sometimes life itself is hard to cope with after such a loss.

Amalia81 20th Oct 2023 12:24 PM

@Chris Hatch, adding my condolences as well for the loss of your wife. *hugs*

whoward69 21st Oct 2023 4:44 PM

Additional primitive wizards now support Chris' latest (0.77.69.9) version

Marvin341 4th Nov 2023 4:25 AM

I am playing in Strangetown and i am using SimPE 0.75f-QA which works fine but for some reason using the SimPE Version from Chris version, make my Sims show up with different Names in Sim Browser.

LadySilverwolf 14th Nov 2023 8:58 PM

My condolences to you as well Chris, for your loss.

To everyone, thanks for the all the questions posed about this amazing tool we use. This was an exceptionally great read.

@whoward69, thank you so much for the Additional primitive wizards as well.


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