Has anyone ever played as Julien Cooke
 

One of the family bin sims that comes with free time. If so, tell me your stories with him im curious to hear them

My story:
I only played with him with no cheats at all unless the mail carrier came so i could force error + delete his/her ass and i tried to get him promoted and it was successful and stuff, then when i played Nina Caliente (his friend) she had a want to flirt with Julien and so i invited him over and they flirted and etc, i didn't save this part lol, then stuck bills, when Julien was cooking food, i can't pay the bills for some reason and the repo man came and that was the last time i played as him

Is he the one with the dog, Porthos, or something?

No, Julien's the one who wants to be a cook, except it isn't often his LTW. I've played Julien lots of times, because unless you suppress the stealth neighborhoods he's in the family bin. The most interesting he's ever been was the first time, when he broke up the Travellers' marriage constantly coming home from work with Trisha and having actual chemistry with her while Trent just noodled around and could never settle down satisfactorily to life. Trisha divorced him to marry Julien, leading to Trent having a breakdown and Tina skipping college to stay home and look after him.

I don't play with him realistically. He works as a test subject for experiments with mods.

Poor Julien, poor poor Julien. ROFL

My Julien moved in on the Picasso marriage, like Peni's Julien did with the Travellers... and I was trying out Preg4AllGenders at the time. Jessica Picasso had twins fathered by Matthew, and very shortly afterwards Matthew found he was pregnant with Julien's baby! The three children all got brought up together, though I don't think I played their household long enough to see what Julien's features looked like when his daughter was older. I recall she looked interesting as a toddler.

I almost never play with him, especially since I use empty stealth hood templates.

The name did not ring a bell, had to look him up. Looked somewhat familiar, but honestly wouldn't be able to put him together with the name. It's possible I've played him at some point when playtesting the FT hood, but probably ages ago, and not for long enough for him to stick to my memory.

His head is quite distinct, similar to the Unsavory pickpocket. I don't remember if he had cooking enthusiasm by default and could therefore come to Sue's Secret Kitchen before I fixed it. You probably have seen him in the character bin. If you thought that deleting him would cause corruption, you'd see him again and again. I think he looks weird and therefore can have an unrealistic profession.

In my game Julien Cooke lives downtown and is friends with the Travellers who live there too, and knows John Burb. They know about his strangeness, his black boxy furniture and mysterious source of family money, and kept him away from Tina and Lucy before those moved to the LeTournament Academy. Julien Cooke also has a Grilled Cheese secondary aspiration to complement his obsession with cooking.

I played him, since I always end up moving the bin sims into my hoods - I'd say at least 3 times. His LTW is to have 30 best friends. He is a popularity sim with a high number of cooking points and works in the culinary career (it is also his hobby).

I find him a bit of a challenge, because he is not a very nice sim, which means he actually finds it difficult to make all those friends. He did not break up any marriages in my hoods - he had various levels of success in making those 30 friends. He adopted a boy and a dog because he needs to socialize, or his aspiration falls.

He owns a small restaurant which is moderately successful in my last hood (which I still play from time to time; the other one was lost when my pc broke). He is also happy to cook for visitors on community lots

Ah, I got the dog's name right, but the owner's name wrong (something I sometimes do in RL, embarrassingly XD).

https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Cyd_Roseland

Cool Sim, Cyd, one of my favourites.

I wouldn't have called his head distinctive, myself, though I realize my standards are perpendicular to most people's. Take the spade beard and curly mustache off him and he's conventionally handsome. I also don't have a problem with his personality limiting his friendships - some of my favorite sims are grouches - but the hours of the culinary career can make it hard for him to cultivate friendships and get out of the house at suitable hours for meeting people. This is not a serious problem in rotation hoods, though, as friendships can be worked from both sides.

In Widespot he and Cyd are sharing a house and have adopted the Critturs. Julien spends quite a lot of time looking after dogs - somehow the jobs all seem to need doing during the day when Cyd's at work, and then Cyd has free time to have guests in the evenings while Julien's working. Julien and Cyd are straight but the neighbors can be forgiven for making assumptions, as the women they're most attracted to are unavailable for one reason or another; either being single as a lifestyle choice, like Candy Hart, or married, like Trisha Traveller and Jessica Picaso. It took ages for them to get rid of their virginities, and it looks as though they're going to quietly grow old together in a welter of dogs.

Hey this story is familiar
Edit: i read this story lol https://ferretsims.livejournal.com/42758.html

Forgot to talk about his romantic interest in my hood - Julian has a relationship with social townie Marie Rauscher, whom he met through work. She is also in the culinary career. They seem content with going on dates (in the mornings, when they don't work)

That's not the same story at all! My Julien and Cyd aren't dating. They are straight. They're just drifting in the same current and will never do anything so proactive as experimenting with each other. I'm afraid they're both the kind of guy who needs the woman to take initiative and nobody finds them promising enough. For awhile Skye Weiss was throwing Cyd at Penny hoping he'd cut out her despised babydaddy Rhett Hart, but that did not happen. Penny never noticed and Cyd, who I think is intimidated by her, never tried hard enough.

I find this funny because for some reason, Cyd Roseland keeps rolling as gay across multiple neighbourhoods of mine.

In my current hood, Julien is bisexual and actually dated Cyd for a bit - it didn't exactly work out because Cyd is a bit of a health nut and Julien loves his food too much. Now he's in a relationship with one of my (female) customs... and yup, risky woohoo did its thing and now they have a kid. Since they're living in the same apartment building, he gets lots of chances to visit his daughter.

One of the good things about the sims (as a whole), there's no fixed story ultimately, you can do whatever you want and make your own story (Or no story, if you prefer.)

Lol but it reminded me of that cuz it involves julien and cyd, sorries

Yeah that's cool. Like i can make non sense like Lilith burns the kitchen and everyone turns into a toddler with cheats or Mortimer dates and cheats on Nina (based off one of my cursed dreams). This game is so awesome, even the base game satisfied me
Edit: not really base game as the only pack i've had before i got Sims 2 Ultimate Collection was Mansion and Garden stuff so basically base game with stuff pack and a few features from packs (eg: chemistry and fury from nightlife, influence from university life)

I think a story will happen, no matter what you do. If you don't make a story, your Sims will make one. And, even if you do try to make a story, your Sims are likely to change it to one that suits them. I think that's what makes our Sims so lovable!

I don't know Julien Cooke, because I don't have the right EP (FreeTime I think). But I do have a Julian in my game: Julian Moltke-Jones, Andrew's long-term boyfriend and now his husband. He pronounces his name "Yulian", because the Moltkes are a German family. He certainly changed the story in my game when, after nine real -years in a monogamous relationship with Andrew, he decided that he wanted an open marriage -- one that included the highly promiscuous Jack Gill -- the "lovable rogue" of Veronaville's young gay community. And Andrew told me that that's what he wanted too! So, to give Andrew and Julian what they wanted I had to put in a "no jealousy at all" mod! . . . But I still love them!

He's in my megahood and in a relationship with Bigfoot (I have the bigfoot romance mod). Bigfoot has a baby girl named Daphne (from Alexandra Teatherton from before Julien) and they are both living with the Traveller family - Tina, Trisha, Trent and their second child Sienna Traveller. All together in Strangetown.

Edit: I rolled and Julien is gay in my megahood to. Oh and Alexandra Teatherton is still living on her own. She gave the baby to Bigfoot. Hunter Bigfoot.

I think a couple of things to watch for with your sims:
- The wants they roll
- The wants they don't roll
- The wants they fear.

What they don't roll can be interesting when it comes to relationships. If these two never roll any wants for each other, you have to ask yourself.. why? It can be a useful tool in determining who breaks up. Have them argue a little and if they never roll positive wants for the other still, well you have your answer.

Played him once a very long time ago. He reached the top of his career, became very rich, built quite a mansion, married a very beautiful woman, died in a mysterious accident in his pool. The mystery has not been solved to this very day.

"died in a mysterious accident in his pool" reminds me of Skip Broke.

That makes me think. Removing the ladder from the pool has become a Sims joke. Did it start with Sims 2? Or did it start with Sims 1 and Skip Broke's death was a nod to the joke?

It was in TS, though I don't remember what came first, drowning or burning to death. (Probably the latter, because it is achievable at the start; you had to have some money to get a pool.) What I do remember is that everybody was fascinated by these discoveries and that 'hoods all over the world were soon left empty.

The question becomes, has anyone had a sim die in a pool accidentally? I mean you basically have to force most deaths, the exception being fire and old age (and sunlight, if vampire).

(And, I do mean a genuine bona fide accident, they didn't intend their sim to die in the pool)

Nope. Never had a drowning death.

I think the only time was when I had a very unfortunate family in TS3. I either made a single dad or the wife died and I just decided to go with the flow. Then the dad caught fire while cooking. I tried to put him out in the pool, and... well... didn't work out. Probably because of low motives.

Been a while, so I'm a bit unsure if he died of the fire on his way to the pool, or from low motives/already being close to death in the pool, but it was one of the two.

Apart from that time, I don't think I've had sims die accidentally from a pool, no. It's always been an "accident" (and a lengthy one at that). In TS4 I even had to put fences around the pool, because they've figured out how to climb the edges... (I was just testing, didn't save )

Ah, thread drift. A kid drowned in Sims 1 because I was doing something in the house and didn't notice that someone was blocking the pool ladder and the kid couldn't get out. I was very upset and now I always have multiple pool ladders and lots of space around them.

Also I remember a sequence in a Prima guide that involved Bella and her side piece drowning Mortimer by removing a pool ladder.

Close, but still it seems the fire was the primary cause overall. (Without the fire none of that would have happened)


Those rascals!


Your first example is a genuine accidental death from a pool, I'm impressed!

The second example would require the player to intentionally remove the ladder, so it stops being an accident. (To be an accident, it must happen without player intervention or planning in my mind.)

I suppose someone new to building might not realise the ladder is necessary, and only add the diving board? Or perhaps using move objects and placing it in an inaccessible location?

It seems quite a hard death to happen entirely on its own and accidentally.

Yeah, that was me doing two thread drifts at once, the accidental drowning one and the removing the pool ladder joke one.

I think most genuine accidental drownings have been due to a glitch (which I consider an 'unfair' death and don't keep), such as a stuck invisible object blocking the ladder, or a building error making it easy for a sim to get stuck blocking the ladder (which I think was the problem when my Sims 1 kid died; it took me awhile to figure out how to prevent stuck sim syndrome). Sims can be stupid, certainly, but they are pretty good about getting out of the pool when they get tired and hungry.

It's my shortest-lived family ever in any sims game. There were accidents upon accidents (actual ones, the kind I tried my best to clear up/avoid). I don't think they even managed a full day (and this includes the multiple TS4 sims who insists on setting themselves on fire as first-time cooks)

Is it any wonder I set my game to free will off, put sprinklers everywhere there's chance of fire, and avoid other dangers like hot tubs for sims I actually care about?

No the only accidental deaths i had were starvation and fire.
For starvation idk what happened, i probably didn't check on my starving sim so i didn't know she was hungry and yes i am aware sims wave to tell the player their hungry and autonomously cook food, but i guess said Sim couldn't even eat. Another case i wanted to make my sim hungry via cheats and she died of starvation. Quit without saving after that.

For fire one of my sims did a kitchen chaos and killed off 2 household members. she did it twice lol. I meme that she's horrible at cooking

The tides of the thread drift may be stirring.


Hmm, it depends what we call a glitch. I mean, if it's the game being dumb for example an invisible stuck object blocking the way, fair do's that's unfair. On the other hand if the player made a build error[0] by placing something in the wrong place, arguably the death is fair, the player made the bed.

I agree, it's one of the few things sims are fairly self saving about.. my guess it's the one thing maxis devs tested this one a lot, for undisclosed reasons.

[0] Or maxis, I once noticed the showers are inaccessible in one of the unedited hobby lots. Nice layout, but sims can't use it.


Ironically, I have to mod my games to make them a little more disaster prone, I find in my game nothing bad ever happens by itself, even with autonomy on.

Well... except for yesterday but that was the nanny's fault. She thought it'd be a good idea to cook food, then walk away from the oven to go watch tv all the while the kitchen is burning down with more dangerous fires, simlars firemod and delayed fire department response times. She's just sat, in the same room, watching TV as it all burns down next to her.

Thankfully fire department got there in time (Fire alarm), and put it out. Oddly, my sim had a 'fight' option on the nanny after. I've never seen that happen for an unknown sim (She has never met the nanny before), what made it weirder is my sim has an almost full 'niceness' bar. Yet, the fight option was available. I guess she heard about the fire. She won the fight. The nanny truly deserved that fight, I had no issue with that.


I've had starvation on pregnant sims, fires and vampires go poof in sunlight. (The game is quite unforgiving to vampires in daylight: Go outside and tell that neighbour to stop ringing your bloody doorbell. *Poof* vampire dies. I've built a fence with a lockable gate around the front door now. No more doorbell for vamps.).

I've yet to see any other death happen naturally. So, it makes me wonder if the other death types occur without modding or forcing them.

I once used moveobjects on while installing a pool ladder and this somehow glitched it and made Sims unable to use it. (No, it wasn't backwards.) I now try to install two ladders if there's enough room for it.

I tend to prefer my sims alive and happy (unless they're part of a story )

TS2 and TS4 sims are for the most part easy to keep alive even without motive cheats (TS4 sims are the easiest, apart from the "zero cooking point = auto fire" issue). Haven't played TS3 in quite some time, so I can't quite remember, but I wasn't too shy of maxing motives there (not because I had to, but more because the game was a bit buggy, and the long distances made it really annoying to get anything done when sims were moving about collecting stuff). In TS2, as long as the families aren't extremely large, they're mostly manageable without the cheat, at least with good routines and a decent house outlay. I mostly do pictures these days, so I tend to do max motives and autonomy off for those. TS1 was a nightmare (but I barely played it, soprobably didn't get enough experience with it).

Yeah.

In my case, as a kid I played TS1 a ton, so I was "used to" that level of difficulty. I played TS3 a lot as it worked on my computer until eventually the whole thing went kaput after a few years with the same save. I still have the save, it'll take ~5 minutes to load even on my current computer run extremely laggy for about 2 minutes and then crash with an out of memory error. (That's with modern proton where it automatically enables any 32-bit exe to use upto 4GB of memory instead of the default 3GB, thank god we don't need to go around patching exe's anymore for 4GB memory usage. ). I did try to get into TS4, built a few nice houses but.. I don't know. The sims just felt.. not the same.

In any case, since I've been back on TS2, loving it! Even if it is a bit easy by default. :D

PS: Sorry for derailing the thread.

Never played Julien, surprisingly, he often got lost in the townie shuffle when I focused on juggling a dozen families. But he was often a welcomed guest who enjoyed a good smustle when the radio was on.

I've played him twice.

Way back when I started with this game, I was in Pleasantview of course. I was trying everything, started playing all the bin sims, and then it was Julien's turn. He was settling in, when Ivy Copur came by. Since he was a cook, apparently, I had him whip up some grilled cheese. And of course there was a fire, and I had not figured out fire alarms yet, and so Julien was engulfed. I believe Ivy got away. But that was it for Julien. 15 minutes of sim fame.

Since then I have fire alarms in every kitchen.

My next neighbourhood was Nova. I figured Julien deserved a second chance, and so was the founding Popularity sim. He did quite well, but was something of a sleazeball. He slept with a number of married women, and wound up getting promotion after promotion in the cooking career as a result. Eventually he got fat and married his highest bolt in town. Who was one of the Slobs. They were heart farting happy, moved into a big house, and had two rather normal kids. The moral is that good thing happen to those who really don't deserve it.