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#26 Old 7th Nov 2024 at 7:11 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Why did you consider MTS scary?


Maybe not SCARY so much as "Oh that's where those SIMS 2 PEOPLE hang out. (I think it was still MTS2 when I first started avoiding it.) I'm not a Sims 2 people! I'm a Sims 1 people! The Sims 2 moon aliens will say moon things I don't understand because I didn't go to astronaut school! I should avoid that place because it is for moon people and I am not a moon people." So a dose of "I don't even play the game(s) it seems more focused on and certainly don't need objects from there" and "they will be saying things that are not relevant to me". (Avoidance aided by Simblesse Oblige being fairly active (and... well... extant 😔) at the time, which helped fulfill all my Sims 1 object and discussion needs.)

But getting into trying to bring the beta objects for Sims 1 to the final game (notably my persistent problems trying to port its scenario) meant I spent more time here and it wasn't so "it's not relevant to me" anymore and thus I didn't have that pulling me back from engaging. ...It also meant I sometimes forayed into Sims 2 areas when Sims 1 ones weren't helping me with an object issue and then found that actually the underlying logic is quite similar! So actually maybe some of the Sims 2 stuff was relevant the entire time!
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#27 Old 7th Nov 2024 at 7:41 PM
Quote: Originally posted by JoeCaramel
I just don't think it was appropriate or responsible of them to scare everyone into thinking all of MTS was compromised.


I agree. MTS has been my go-to since TS2 and never has there been a problem, so to make MTS out to be problematic as a whole is irresponsible and disrespectful.
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#28 Old 7th Nov 2024 at 8:19 PM
https://scarletsrealm.com/the-mod-l...w-nsfw-edition/
I always use their Mod List to update all my mods. Now they won't include any MTS downloads anymore. They want people to upload to other sites so that they can link to their mods again - what a bummer. :-(
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#29 Old 7th Nov 2024 at 8:27 PM
Quote: Originally posted by himawara106
I always use their Mod List to update all my mods.

If you download mods on MTS while you're logged in, then your Download History will keep an eye out for you whenever a mod you downloaded gets an update. While it doesn't come with a sort of notification system - I wish it did! - it is still a lot better than having to go back to each download page to check for updates, and could work as an alternative to this website for mods hosted exclusively on MTS.
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#30 Old 7th Nov 2024 at 10:00 PM
Quote: Originally posted by purplewowies
Maybe not SCARY so much as "Oh that's where those SIMS 2 PEOPLE hang out.


We have cookies *puppy eyes*

Back on topic. Checking file size when you download is not a bad idea. 18031 bytes for a mod sounds suspicious as heck.

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#31 Old 8th Nov 2024 at 3:51 AM
I'm also getting concerned about the increasing frequency of bot activity in this site. Like the emergence of threads that are seemingly harmless at first then hours later it gets a reply with a suspicious link, or threads written in a foreign language. Can't help but think it might also have been done by the same person behind the recent attack.

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#32 Old 8th Nov 2024 at 4:08 AM
Quote: Originally posted by himawara106
Now they won't include any MTS downloads anymore. They want people to upload to other sites so that they can link to their mods again - what a bummer. :-(


Their idea that everyone hosting their mods somewhere other than a fully moderated site would be safer is hilarious to me.
As if Tumblr isn't full of broken pirated content, adfly links with redirections and malicious ads, with no update history on posts to boot. Same goes for other blog hosting websites, and don't even get me started on TSR.

Two malware attacks isn't indicative of ModtheSims itself, it's indicative of the internet hellscape as a whole right now.
Botting, DDOS attacks, AI trawling, and now outright account theft and malware- these things are making it harder for non-profit forums like this one to survive everywhere. Dismissing a website for being targeted multiple times is really missing the point. If everyone stopped using MTS, these attacks will move to whatever site inherited those users.

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Test Subject
#33 Old 8th Nov 2024 at 1:11 PM
Quote: Originally posted by CardinalSims
Their idea that everyone hosting their mods somewhere other than a fully moderated site would be safer is hilarious to me.
As if Tumblr isn't full of broken pirated content, adfly links with redirections and malicious ads, with no update history on posts to boot. Same goes for other blog hosting websites, and don't even get me started on TSR.

Two malware attacks isn't indicative of ModtheSims itself, it's indicative of the internet hellscape as a whole right now.
Botting, DDOS attacks, AI trawling, and now outright account theft and malware- these things are making it harder for non-profit forums like this one to survive everywhere. Dismissing a website for being targeted multiple times is really missing the point. If everyone stopped using MTS, these attacks will move to whatever site inherited those users.


So true! I reblogged someone's post that I saw on my dashboard about this very issue. I remembered when CurseForage's malicious hackers putting malware in some minecraft mods, then went to the sims modding side too. It's making me anxious that this issue of hackers putting malware in mods. At least it's on a smaller scale, but still not a good sign.
And if anyone on this forum is reading this: get TwistedMexi's ModGaurd, it'll (and quoted from the mod's patreon post) "blocks common virus vectors, tracks the mod file that attempted to download it, notifies you, and shares the mod name with our team so compromised modder accounts can be notified as soon as possible". And please do NOT (as of the 8th of November 2024 that this is written) download any of these mods linked on the first post on this thread, thank you and mod your game safely and responsibly!
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#34 Old 8th Nov 2024 at 2:50 PM
Wow. So much MTS hate. From the original post saying that 'MTS hasn't been a valid place to download mods from for 5 years', to this person blacklisting us because there were occasional hacker problems (which I bet a lot of sites get).

Blacklisting MTS is just going to make it harder for the Sims community to stay alive and communicative. Plus, (biased opinion) it's so much easier to find mods here than on Tumblr.
Forum Resident
#35 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 12:56 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Wow. So much MTS hate. From the original post saying that 'MTS hasn't been a valid place to download mods from for 5 years', to this person blacklisting us because there were occasional hacker problems (which I bet a lot of sites get).

Blacklisting MTS is just going to make it harder for the Sims community to stay alive and communicative. Plus, (biased opinion) it's so much easier to find mods here than on Tumblr.


I may or may not have left a (respectful) reply on their twitter post about blocking MTS since comments seem to not work on their website. Purposefully redirecting people to un-moderated downloads on other sites rather than linking to the one that is implementing automatic .ts4script decompilation to better detect suspicious code is incredibly irresponsible. Hopefully they will change their mind or else it is that website that should be considered dangerous from now on. How ironic.

Sorry for the frustrated tone. Lol. I’m just tired of seeing people/sites with a large influence/following making irresponsible posts and knee-jerk decisions.
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#36 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 1:01 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Danieltebza
So true! I reblogged someone's post that I saw on my dashboard about this very issue. I remembered when CurseForage's malicious hackers putting malware in some minecraft mods, then went to the sims modding side too. It's making me anxious that this issue of hackers putting malware in mods. At least it's on a smaller scale, but still not a good sign.
And if anyone on this forum is reading this: get TwistedMexi's ModGaurd, it'll (and quoted from the mod's patreon post) "blocks common virus vectors, tracks the mod file that attempted to download it, notifies you, and shares the mod name with our team so compromised modder accounts can be notified as soon as possible". And please do NOT (as of the 8th of November 2024 that this is written) download any of these mods linked on the first post on this thread, thank you and mod your game safely and responsibly!


I disagree with the part where you suggest people get that persons mod. Not that I don't want them to get help as I'm all for that, but because the ONLY way to get it is to PAY for it. Why charge for somethin that will help out your fellow simmers? Sims 2 had their share of those who tried to have people pay for content, but there were even more who shared their stuff freely and a lot of time the free stuff was much better than the pay stuff. The good mods, the ones that fixed the game and such those, (to the best of my knowledge) were all shared freely.
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#37 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 1:23 AM
Quote: Originally posted by CaliBrat
I disagree with the part where you suggest people get that persons mod. Not that I don't want them to get help as I'm all for that, but because the ONLY way to get it is to PAY for it. Why charge for somethin that will help out your fellow simmers? Sims 2 had their share of those who tried to have people pay for content, but there were even more who shared their stuff freely and a lot of time the free stuff was much better than the pay stuff. The good mods, the ones that fixed the game and such those, (to the best of my knowledge) were all shared freely.


While the mod is hosted on TwistedMexi's Patreon, it is available for free and does not require pledging to download.
Alchemist
#38 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 1:33 AM
Quote: Originally posted by bomaye
While the mod is hosted on TwistedMexi's Patreon, it is available for free and does not require pledging to download.


If it is available for free then I rescind my disagree. Thank you for that information. As I said above I play Sims2 so do not know anything about Sims 4 (or 3), but I dislike the idea of any Simmer bein charged for somethin for whichever version of the game they play (other than the initial purchase from EAxis).
Test Subject
#39 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 3:42 PM
Thank you!
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#40 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 3:47 PM
Quote: Originally posted by CaliBrat
If it is available for free then I rescind my disagree. Thank you for that information. As I said above I play Sims2 so do not know anything about Sims 4 (or 3), but I dislike the idea of any Simmer bein charged for somethin for whichever version of the game they play (other than the initial purchase from EAxis).

Unfortunately the Sims 4 Community has a massive problem with people making players pay for mods and CC, so much so that EA had to step in and require a mandatory month long(I think, could be a bit longer but don't remember off the top of my head) paid early access period before the mods become free for all players. However, because EA doesn't actually monitor the community at all, the perma-paywalled mods continue to run rampant.
Lab Assistant
#41 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 5:32 PM
I'm just disappointed in people who believed the original "whole Mod The Sims is compromised, don't download anything" post and spreading it further without even checking that the problem has already been solved and the site is safe.
I've seen many large pages on FB sharing this, and even YouTube videos (and AGAIN, no one mentioned this thread), now the whole internet knows to avoid MTS, which is just hurtful to the creators, and it has gone too far to stop it.
Mad Poster
#42 Old 9th Nov 2024 at 11:05 PM
Just make sure to share this MTS topic in comments/on sites/wherever else people have spread wrong information, so things have a chance to calm down. One feather has a tendency to become a whole hen house if people keep spreading bad info.

I saw one of the "MTS is compromized" things, and my first instinct was to go to MTS to see if there was any info directly from the source. And there was (this topic).

Quote: Originally posted by purplewowies
Maybe not SCARY so much as "Oh that's where those SIMS 2 PEOPLE hang out.

Yep! We're even recruiting, it seems XD

Quote: Originally posted by joandsarah77
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#43 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 8:50 AM Last edited by miska : 10th Nov 2024 at 9:06 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by JoeCaramel
I just don't think it was appropriate or responsible of them to scare everyone into thinking all of MTS was compromised.


I completely agree and his statement couldn't be further from the truth.

MTS2 now ModTheSims has been the long running safest place to download mods/cc for the Sims Franchise for a long time.

WHY is this the safest place to download mods and cc for the The Sims 2, 3, 4?

Because of the Stringent Process files/uploads/submissions have to go through before being accessible for download; unlike everywhere else on the Internet and especially places like Tumblr, Patreon, etc. that do NOT review/screen uploaded files/submissions before allowing them to be downloaded.

TwistedMexi should RETRACT his Statement Publicly along with a link to This very thread so The Community can Read The Truth for themselves.

*Perhaps someone should link this thread at TM's Discord to help him get the word out?

Just my .02.

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Lab Assistant
#44 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 9:40 AM Last edited by miska : 10th Nov 2024 at 9:59 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Wow. So much MTS hate. From the original post saying that 'MTS hasn't been a valid place to download mods from for 5 years', to this person blacklisting us because there were occasional hacker problems (which I bet a lot of sites get).

Blacklisting MTS is just going to make it harder for the Sims community to stay alive and communicative. Plus, (biased opinion) it's so much easier to find mods here than on Tumblr.


I'm with you on this Charity, I may be biased too, but I've honestly not found a more convenient or safer source for CC or Mods for The Sims Franchise.

How people can think that spreading themselves 'far and wide' across multiple platforms is a good way to handle the content they create and share is beyond me. When creators have accounts all over the place, not only is it confusing for the end-user, but also updating seems to be a nightmare for most because you'll often find that some creators only update regularly on some platforms while leaving many files in need of updates on others. It's a Mess how the S4 Creator Community handles their content for the most part.

On the other hand, here at MTS creators can update easily and answer user questions / help with problems in one convenient place; why go anywhere else? It makes no sense to me. Personally, if/when I do make things for the Game, I only have and only ever will upload my content here at MTS.

Also, I just realized that as of 'right Now' I've been here at MTS for 20 years!

*Good Grief . . . How time has flown by . . .

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#45 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 10:46 AM
Haven't been updating my mods or Simming for ages (God Forbid if anyone sees updates to my mods they are 100% not by me unless I make it clear otherwise!!!) - just popping by the say MTS is one of the first, if not the very first, site that I used and got into using CC, eventually making my own Mods. To make it upfront and clear, MTS is probably the most reputable Simming site out there!

Know this is controversial to say, I do feel uploads are scrutinised less so these days insofar as TS3 content goes, than when I first joined - this is understandable because TS3 is relatively obsolete, and it's better to encourage people to create and share than turn them away, but where I am coming from is that there seems to be more tolerance and discretion in terms of content quality than years ago when the benchmark was higher. Nothing wrong with this though.

But what I've said above doesn't change the fact that there are still a lot of quality creations, and perhaps most importantly, everything is scrutinised before being made public at least!
Mad Poster
#46 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 11:16 AM
Quote: Originally posted by miska
I'm with you on this Charity, I may be biased too, but I've honestly not found a more convenient or safer source for CC or Mods for The Sims Franchise.

How people can think that spreading themselves 'far and wide' across multiple platforms is a good way to handle the content they create and share is beyond me. When creators have accounts all over the place, not only is it confusing for the end-user, but also updating seems to be a nightmare for most because you'll often find that some creators only update regularly on some platforms while leaving many files in need of updates on others. It's a Mess how the S4 Creator Community handles their content for the most part.

On the other hand, here at MTS creators can update easily and answer user questions / help with problems in one convenient place; why go anywhere else? It makes no sense to me. Personally, if/when I do make things for the Game, I only have and only ever will upload my content here at MTS.

Also, I just realized that as of 'right Now' I've been here at MTS for 20 years!

*Good Grief . . . How time has flown by . . .


Heh, you made me check my join date. 15 years, so not quite as long as you.

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#47 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 3:19 PM
The thing that i love about this site is that even if i'm still not heavily involved in the TS2 community anymore i still come back to see what everyone's up to and look at all the great photo threads that are still being updated to this day! The TS4 community has a tendency to raise certain creators to godlike status and it irks the hell out of me. I don't know if Twisted or Scarlett are on Bluesky (cuz i left twitter years ago), but they're not gonna get a warm reception from me after this i can tell you that much.
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#48 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 3:25 PM
Quote: Originally posted by miska
Also, I just realized that as of 'right Now' I've been here at MTS for 20 years!


Noob. (I'm kidding of course, thanks for sticking around for so long!)

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#49 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 5:31 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Tashiketh
Noob. (I'm kidding of course, thanks for sticking around for so long!)

Made me think to check mine.. 2011. That's.. a long time. If my memory serves me well I had managed to get Sims 3 working on linux and wanted nrass mods, which at the time were only here. (I think?)

Thus, I have been bugging you guys ever since.

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#50 Old 10th Nov 2024 at 9:57 PM
It's been 22 years for me here.

In this thread, where I also check which mods get updated, they mention that they won’t link any MTS mods anymore:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Mods-CC-I...14247913#M70035

And some modders are already moving their stuff to Curseforge.

For me this sums up the whole problem with part of the Sims 4 community. They read an information, get very angry about it, don't make any research and thus BELIEVE it and are happy when they can rant about it with other like minded individuals. It would be so much better if people start to think for themselves again and don't rely solely on one source.

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