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Mad Poster
#13251 Old 31st Jul 2024 at 5:29 PM
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#13252 Old Today at 2:34 PM Last edited by moonlight__ : Today at 6:37 PM.
Growing up playing Sims 2 and realizing as an adult that my body type is the 'fat' adult female and how ridiculous 2000s beauty standards were. For context, I'm a size M, tall and often called slim or athletic, but I look exactly like the 'fat' adult when I'm relaxed after lunch. As a kid I though it was genuinely fat and the thumbnail showed an obese person. I'm happy that I wasn't a teen in the 2000s cause that kind of mentality would've destroyed me.

Edit: teen female 'fat' is even chubby, it's literally a size small/medium and the majority of my teen girl sims are 'fat' while only the skinny model sims are 'nomal'. I also use new meshes for both ages with wider hips and thicker legs which are closer to the fat shape.
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#13253 Old Today at 2:43 PM
I don't think I ever thought the TS2 "fat" sims were fat, but I agree that the 2000s body standards were absolutely insane! It all seemed to get worse and worse and reach a peak and then someone was like no, no more of this.

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#13254 Old Today at 2:55 PM
Quote: Originally posted by moonlight__
Growing up playing Sims 2 and realizing as an adult that my body type is the 'fat' adult female and how ridiculous 2000s beauty standards were.

I think this was more to do with the restrictions of the game- Maxis couldn't afford the extra animations that would have been neccessitated by adding larger bodies, so chose to keep the 'fat' model quite slim. You can see the problems they would have had if you play with some of the custom large bodyshapes. For a similar reason they just have one height for each age stage. Even in 2004 I thought the 'fat' body wasn't fat (and that seemed to be the consensus amongst players on the forums I frequented) - so I don't think beauty standards then were any more ridiculous than they are now.
Mad Poster
#13255 Old Today at 3:29 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample
I think this was more to do with the restrictions of the game- Maxis couldn't afford the extra animations that would have been neccessitated by adding larger bodies, so chose to keep the 'fat' model quite slim. You can see the problems they would have had if you play with some of the custom large bodyshapes. For a similar reason they just have one height for each age stage. Even in 2004 I thought the 'fat' body wasn't fat (and that seemed to be the consensus amongst players on the forums I frequented) - so I don't think beauty standards then were any more ridiculous than they are now.


Yeah 'fat shaming' is unfortunately still just as much of a thing. DX

I wonder how TS3 onwards managed animations with their greater body varieties.
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#13256 Old Today at 6:54 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample
I think this was more to do with the restrictions of the game- Maxis couldn't afford the extra animations that would have been neccessitated by adding larger bodies, so chose to keep the 'fat' model quite slim. You can see the problems they would have had if you play with some of the custom large bodyshapes. For a similar reason they just have one height for each age stage. Even in 2004 I thought the 'fat' body wasn't fat (and that seemed to be the consensus amongst players on the forums I frequented) - so I don't think beauty standards then were any more ridiculous than they are now.



I'm fully aware of that and I actually have "fat suits" for every age except toddlers. GTA San Adreas did a good job for CJ but there are less animations in that game. Sims 3 sims move a bit unnaturally and stand way too far from stuff which is probably the price of making it obese and body builder friendly. As for Sims 2, it was unnecessary to have an obese thumbnail and more appropriate to name it chubby or thin and average. Although you had common sense not to consider it fat, it does perfectly intertwine with the mentality in early 2000s pop culture of calling everyone who is above size small fat.
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#13257 Old Today at 7:24 PM
Quote: Originally posted by moonlight__
I'm fully aware of that and I actually have "fat suits" for every age except toddlers. GTA San Adreas did a good job for CJ but there are less animations in that game. Sims 3 sims move a bit unnaturally and stand way too far from stuff which is probably the price of making it obese and body builder friendly. As for Sims 2, it was unnecessary to have an obese thumbnail and more appropriate to name it chubby or thin and average. Although you had common sense not to consider it fat, it does perfectly intertwine with the mentality in early 2000s pop culture of calling everyone who is above size small fat.


That's not a 2000s thing lol. Look at 'plus size' models nowadays, who aren't plus size at all; they just aren't anorexic.

The male fat morph is definitely fat. Beer belly lol.
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