Thank you!

I really wanted Plot of Land to have its own unique feel and be in a way like its own little world when I originally started making it. I never really intended for people just put in their game and forget about it, but rather for them to appreciate all the effort I put into it and still am putting into it. I wanted, and still do want, to make something that people will want to play for months or years on end. Kind of like they do with the Maxis neighborhoods. And that's my philosophy about neighborhood making in general. 'Is this unique? Will I find myself wanting to continue playing it in 3 months' time?" These are things I personally ask myself often when making a neighborhood. That's why for Plot of Land there is so much CC used, and why I made custom theme songs, custom floors, a terrain paint, roads, recolors, and etc. etc.

Having spent numerous months making this neighborhood, it makes me really happy to know that I am doing great in achieving my goal of unique-ness!

Wanted to share a roadmap of what I'm doing for the next major update - it'll be known as the 'Community' update. One thing I am noticing as I play is that Plot of Land's community life seems a bit dead. There aren't enough townies to fill out all the roles and with the current build you tend to see the same few over and over. Also, there is a lack of things to do in the community, not many community lots as currently in 2.1 the options are a graveyard/church, a plaza, a thrift shop, a tavern, and an unspecific business for OFB. This is simply not enough IMO. So, by introducing several new townies and by creating 8 new community lots the town will be more fleshed out and interesting. The lot types will be as follows:

A public pool (Done!)
A restaurant (Done!)
A community garden (Done!)
An electronics store (place to buy the cell phone, mp3 player, video games, and electronic objects - ideal for OFB)
A grocery store (Done!)
A hair salon/beauty parlor
An arcade or a gym (I'm unsure which yet)
A bowling alley

Don't expect any more hotfixes or anything until I get this all done and ready for release. But I would like to emphasize that reporting bugs and whatnot are still important for me, so report them if you find them!

Hey @HarVee I've managed to test the Beta 2 hot fix version a bit over the last few days. Overall, I really love it and appreciate the detail, creativity and imagination used. Aesthetically it's a really beautiful town, I would play this for a long time I can tell! I like that you cut down on the CC load a bit, I can now play it with full neighbourhood view without having pink soup, so I can see the lovely scenery from inside the lots.



I'll put my comments behind a spoiler below, apologies if it's stuff you already fixed. A lot of the comments are suggestions for changes but, of course, some of these may have been intentional design choices on your part, so just ignore those comments if so! I am pointing out everything that occured to me as I was playing.

I tested using the Beta 2.1 hotfix version, using the CC you uploaded plus the essentials you mention. I added nothing else, but the install I used does have a vesion of Gunmod's lighting in it hence the colours may look slightly different on the fotpaths and roads.


I hope these help!

I admit, some of those are actually funny (like the weather inside the house) But I will fix it though!

BO No Sim Loaded is an accidental included thing that I use simply for testing purposes, I'll be updating the CC collection to remove it definitely since it's not really intended for normal gameplay!

For napping I did include "Numenor_Sleep-on-comm-lot_AllGames.package" which is a mod that lets Sims sleep on community lots. As far as I can tell that's the only one that effects sleeping directly. Maybe try removing that from the zzHACKS folder and see if that will help? If it does help, then I'll remove it from the collection.

The 'blank' thumbnail memories are something I was actually aware of, but haven't got around to fixing quite yet, they'll definitely be fixed by the time BETA 3 drops. They are due to not having a proper subject sim selected, In my rush to get the memories done I did overlook things sadly. For service sim on Francine Boulder though, I'm not sure what that's about, unless somehow, I chose the wrong version of that memory. I will look into it. For the Keith Hendrickson memory I intended to remove those memories from the entire family, guess I must have missed that particular memory. Keith Hendrickson is the local deliveryman, iirc.

Streetlights - I changed this already.

Wandering into the street, well, this is an odd behavior, but I oddly like it! Makes the neighborhood feel more rural. The discrete concrete is actually the original Maxis flooring, it's one the few I didn't hide with the Wall and Floor hider extra. Custom road tiles, yes though, and I explained why I did that earlier in the thread.

Doors getting stuck - I noticed this several times, but I'm unsure how to fix it. Deleting the door and replacing it only fixes it for a short time.

Neighborhood dirt road deco - This might sound odd, given the amount of detail I put into it, but I never use the neighborhood deco view from lot feature. I always leave it disabled because of Pink Soup. But it's nice to have this brought to my attention for those that do play with it on. I'll look into fixing it but can make no guarantees.

Prickly cactus dead on Cowl lot - intentional.

No changing table or potty chair on boulder lot - also intentional. Idea is to make them feel like a starter family.

Um, hmm, all else that I didn't specifically mention (as not to make this post too long) are things I will look into changing/fixing.

Thanks for you feedback @simsample this means a lot to me!

Issues log of version 2.1 hotfix - what's fixed/changed insofar and what's being worked on - keeping this here for reference:

-Figure out what is causing the doors to get stuck open on some lots. (Done!)

^**Ceiling lights on the tile(s) the door use. Apparently, it's a common problem with the game in general. Originally, I thought it may have been the CC, but thankfully not. Thanks a lot Maxis for another annoyance.**


-Fixed up all the memories reported by simsample. (Done!)

-Remove the Keith Hendrickson memory from Neemor Frenz. (Done!)

-Add the Chett Hart got A+ report card memory to Cruelty Hart. (Done!)

-Fix the weather inside room issue on Babybat mini-manor. (Done!)

-Figure out the routing issue on Babybat Mini-Manor lot. (To-Do!)

-Trying to figure out the garden steep terrain issue and probably go about resetting all the sprinklers (or just remove them, not sure, depends on the steep terrain issue). (To-Do!)

BETA 3? Hmm, can't believe we're already almost there. I figured out the garden plot issue. It was rather simple to fix actually. I just needed to re-flatten the terrain the plots were on.

I'd like to discuss something with those that have supported this neighborhood thus far. I have created many mods for different games over the years and I have really come to wish I had a centralized area for my modding endeavors. MTS has a lot of great tutorials, but sometimes things aren't as centralized in the way I'd like as modder of different games. I can't host my GTA mods with my Sims 2 mods for example here, not saying that it's bad or anything, just that I'd like more centralization for myself in particular. So, I'm introducing a new discord server for all my modding releases. Jackal Kiss Modding. It's still relatively new and things aren't finalized yet, but BETA 3 of Plot of Land will be the last one I release directly to MTS in this particular thread. Post-BETA 3 discussion and updates will all be done on my new modding discord server which I will link to when BETA 3 goes live this Saturday (October 5th). Hopefully you understand that this makes it easier for me in the long run to have better control over my mods.

Edit: There's a slight delay in the release of BETA 3, I came across a couple issues that need to be addressed before it can go live. it might take me a week or two to address these issues. I assure you though, they're nothing game breaking or corruption causing.

Squeee, this neighborhood looks absolutely beautiful and unique!! Can't wait to try it out.

Is there anything you specifically want feedback on or should I just play through all the families, visit all community lots, etc. and report bugs if I find any?

Anything that seems out of the ordinary, though in particular I'd really like to hear at this point if any of the lots have major routing issues, besides the babybat mini-manor lot that @simsample reported which I still am trying to figure out how to fix without drastically redoing the lot.

I've been busy with family plus internet went down so haven't had much time to Sim, Beta 3 is delayed until I get back home next week. Which gives me some time to spend with fam, and a little Simming maybe at night idk. :D