I don't quite understand this part. Saving to build them where? On their lot? On owned public lots? How would you make them profitable?

I have a doctor with a very small clinic and a policeman with a small jail and an office, both on their lots. They look nice but are completely useless unless I use various cheats; I do that when I am making stories but not in a normal game.

ETA: Regarding Bulbizarre's links: the first one was blocked as suspicious by Bitdefender. The second mod looks great but the problem is that university study is free where I live and will remain free in my game.

Sounds like a false positive. Don't think I've had issues opening links from Cyjon's site before. It opens fine for me (my AV reacts if there's anything bad on a site, and gave off no warnings). Could be reacting to no www, or "http" instead of https?

It's probably flagged because Cyjon's site is still using http instead of https. https has the wrong certificate (it also doesn't work).

Me either. I've found no20khandout makes the biggest difference.

That, and not feeling beholden to have every sim max out their careers at 10 levels. My town does not need 15 Chief of Staffs and no nurses.


Build A City Challenge. Sims have to pay taxes to earn community buildings.

The town has to build a church + graveyard on a blank community lot. That takes money that every family will have to decide how much to donate. Once a church is built a priest can move into one of the empty small houses. Priests don't normally build their own church or technically own them. So I would simply give them the cash to 'buy' it. My founders are about to die so we really need a graveyard and soon.

In game of course the priest will own the church so they can run it. As to it being profitable, apart from selling Bibles and flowers and adding a ticket machine to simulate church giving it won't be. The priest will use a custom career.

I don't know about other countries but most country towns have a church and graveyard here.

As for the clinic I am trying to have my doctor save to be able to build one but given that she is married to the teacher and he is trying to save for a proper school based on what the kids make and the robots he crafts it's being extreamly tough. Both clinics (forget about a hospital) and schools take an enormous amount of cash.

I still have no police station but when I do they will sell burglar alarms, toy police cars and books I will have an officer write. In my last integrated hood I had him write a book called "Home security" and "The mind of a burglar". It will also contain a small jail and I will use it. I have my police officer walk a beat and I also at that point will make a playable burglar. I use playable cops to be sure he will turn up if a family gets burgled and if he wins that burglar will be going to my jail. Other sims can go to jail for fighting or stealing as well. If I left the gate unlocked sims would have stolen my cows numerous times.

I have just figured out how to have a playable construction company and while they are only clearing and selling a block of land right now they may soon be able to afford an actual house block. I have a thread here in my signature on playing active carers and businesses.

I play out everything that I can, It just takes some mods and imagination.



I haven't been doing taxes yet as there is no proper town or town leader as such. I started this hood with one sim who is quite old now, but the town is just his kids and spouses and grandchildren in a small collection of houses.I need someone in the political career but I don't have that yet. The town is basically farms, a pub, a dance hall (which can double as a meeting area and sims can get married there) and a servo. (servo is what we call a petrol station here in Australia) The school is just in someones house.

This is why I love a combination of @Lamare's job options (namely 'ask before promotion') and @whoward69's Sim Salary Bonus Scheme.

I had to read your challenge to really understand how you are playing the game. In some ways it is similar to the way I am making my stories, but mostly it is completely different. I will certainly try it out but, I am afraid, with some tweaks:
- No supernaturals.
- "Any Sim you create in CAS may only move in/marry townies or Sims that were born in-game, not other Sims that you create in CAS." I am playing my most recent Pleasantview this way, but with lots of (free) plastic surgery. Not sure what you think about students but I treat them as in-game Sims.
- Churches are a must in my games as well. I made two types: a small "village" one with a small vicarage that costs a bit less than 20.000, and a big "town" one with a big vicarage (about 70.000). A new priest gets the small church and vicarage and then it's up to him to get the big one. He is, of course, always in the priest career (mod) but he is allowed to get married (mostly protestants, obviously; if he is a catholic he can't get married but he can get a cook).
- Free cemetery and marriage chapel. I think SimCity would take care of those.

In any case, a really good system, quite elaborate.

Not my challenge. There are numerous rule sets for the BACC around. I use my own rules. I call my game play a combination of Build A City and Integrated. If you were around for the isle of Tyme in 2009, that was integrated. Integrated means playable sims run and pay for everything they possibly can.
BACC has rules for unlocking things. For example they might say maid service is unlocked at 500 population or the church costs 20K. I don't use those number goals, I unlock by either having a sim willing to run a service and or having a lot dedicated to that thing. it can be as tiny as 1 by 1 lot that I expand later. Most times I build a 2 by 2 lot to start with and make it as cheap as possible. I have a 1 by 1 fire station uploaded to MTS with a 2 by 2 police station. I also have a 2 by 2 office uploaded which can be used for a variety of business. I would strip them and use cheap CC paint and floor. I have started business on 1 by 1 lot with 1 shelf of items and a porta potty in one corner and no building. It's a struggle bus.

If you add rules like no 20K handout, no money perks for business and no wishing for cash on genie lamps, your sims will be poor. Maybe too poor.
Some people like to get a money perk on every second business rank and I have done that before if you want things to go a bit faster and easier. I would call that a grant from the government. So tweak as you see fit, in a way that is enjoyable to you.

Did not occur to me. I got used to people using different usernames and avatars a long time ago. (A lot of "use" in this sentence. )

I played the "no handout" challenge only in TS3; it ended like any other run with the Sim sitting in his sumptuous home, later than usual, but not much.

I was surprised to learn that the Opportunity Shop at my mother's church was one of the main income earners.

How are you going to handle everyone being related to each other?

Sorry for the confusion, I figured it was BACC or something similar.

They marry in townies. I downloaded a couple of sets of them. Family gatherings are LARGE since my founder had 6 kids.

I am either joandsarah or Jo Playing the sims. But yeah, Jo everywhere. Not good with names, especially not name switcheroos so my own is as easy as can be.

I did make a challenge years ago, called from Creation to the Future on the Exchange and it was far too long. I also started a cave man survival challenge on a drive that went 'kaput' for want of a better word. Lost an underground tomb build and many other things.

Oops sorry you guys, double post. It's not 8am here in Australia yet. Got to wake up.