I recently upgraded my Niua Simoa (WA version) game with new venues and different rabbitholes and I still cannot get enough of it.

Your welcome. Just remember that Zerbu said this too "Compared to previous Sims games, everything in The Sims 4 is so pre-defined. We’re basically stuck with what EA gives us." so don't expect it to be even at par with previous Sims games but nice Zerbu still tries to provide tools for people to work with. But I do really respect Zerbu as a modder, have enjoyed trying out all of those mods a lot, and surprised he has tolerated the Sims 4 for this long.

@Inge Jones, Pary had a nice comment on that of where the Sims 4 was heading which made me giggle. Pretty much down the toilet, thus the potty humor things in the Sims 4.

simply put: Keep your expectation low, you won't be dissapointed.
Or better: *lower*.

Going quiet would be the best thing for this entire disaster. That's what all us fans of the SimCity franchise did when they ruined it in 2013. After the initial outburst of disappointment, then the millions of suggestions from fans, and modders, then the arguing among the fan base....finally it went quiet. Everyone gave up, shelved the game and went back to older versions or moved on to other city building games.

I'm seeing this same pattern. I've been visiting the Sims forums less and less... but the tension has really built up. The calm before the storm maybe. I think it's very possible that as soon as people spend their money on this next Crappy EP City life (I wont be)....this will hopefully be the end of it. I'm really not sure that those who claim to like the game can keep it afloat. Cause there were people who liked SimCity 2013....but not enough of them.

Yes going quiet would be awsome. Give all those damn money hungry bastards at EA/Maxis the bitch slap they deserve. I'm in.

Can you imagine all the simmers that are now on the official forums caring and arguing about the game simply disappearing, in deafening silence, leaving only the few happy campers. The forum would be dead within months. *dreams*

Although, the recent drama has been very entertaining to say the least. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion - you can't look away.

Just wanted to say that Point Ouerbacker is one of my favorite worlds, and was the setting for one of my favorite TS3 stories that I made.

@ElaineNualla



Sorry, I don't understand what you meant to be honest. English is not my first language so what is ofc? I googled it got results like 'Obama Fried Chicken', 'Optical Fiber Cable', 'Oceania Football Confederation', I looked up urban dictionary, ofc stands for Original Female Character. I guess you meant by Original Female Character correlated with whole Asian-productions "purely professional" or kinda "artistic"? Don't understand what is that whole Asian productions? Explanation please?



Aaaaargggh The game I explained is not Singles, but Supple! Sorry guys I got mixed them up. Now I'm playing Singles. Singles characters speak gibberish and the place is in apartment. Haven't tried Supple yet. Supple characters speaks English and the place is in office.

"ofc" is short for "of course" and the Asian productions are perhaps all those Dating Sim or Ren'ai games.

What does Yib stand for again? I know what it means but why are they called yibs?!

Rachel said in a conference call with them "you will be called YibSims which is Simlish for Best Friend"

Absolutely disgusting

Yes but being quiet also translates to No longer making purchases for the game. If people eventually get tired of the ongoing crap on the forums, and feel they are not being heard....which is what is happening now. The fan base will eventually decide, "well shit...why spend money on this if I'm not getting what I want, or if they don't listen to me. I'll spend my money on another game." I mean, that's what I've done.... and I gave this game a good shot. I bought the overly priced base game, I bought the first EP and the GP's and SP's that followed. The game is crap... it's just not living up to the expectation of where this game should be now. Even those who defend it...they will tire of it, especially if they keep pushing out the limitations and no content that we've been getting.

And the forums are a great measuring tool for the success of a game, and as a fan...you can only post so many threads or participate in so many that are about the same thing over and over again before you just give up. The Devs over at EA/Maxis can continue to ignore everyone while lying to us by saying "we're listening" all they want...but at the end of the day...when a majority of the Sims Fan base gives them the big F'ck you... and this franchise goes belly up.... they will be the ones responsible and most likely out of a job. Their gushing smiles will turn upside down, and they will be looking for a new game to destroy.

I doubt seriously that EA/Maxis will put anymore money into it if the fans stop buying it...and I mean on every level of buying it. Stop buying the game, Stop buying the bullshit.... etc. they will get rid of the Sims Studio, use it for a new franchise, and that will be that.

I just hope, like I said in a previous post.... that there is some brilliant genius out there who can create a new sims game, and give us all what we want.

Knowing then what I know now...I would either have never bought it...or at least returned it. But you know...I wanted to give it a chance. And I agree with you about how there is always someone out there on those forums just ready to scold you for anything negative that is said about the game. But I know people will get tired of the forums. I am. I've gone over there a couple times, mostly lurking...but it's the same ole crap...they are all just arguing about the same thing. There are so many threads about how bad the game is, just different thread titles. And there is no point in even making a thread about a new idea for the game...I don't even know why that category exists on that forum at all.

didn't know that one of the gurus had said that they were doing what they wanted, that is just well...I have a list of swear words that would probably get me banned at this point.... I'm sure the happier butt kissing fan base will be fine with it....for now. But money is what is going to shut them up. I do think that the peeps might hold out for just a bit longer... but a majority of the fan base has already said they wont buy this City EP.

Because this franchise has so many different playing styles...it's not going to die out exactly like Sim City did... but it will fizzle. Unless the gurus and EA / Maxis pulls some magic out of their asses and fixes the game...not likely though.

I would be so thrilled if it just ended. I'm happy coming here and getting some good CC and mods for TS3. I can wait to spend my money until someone really talented comes along and create a new game.

I went ahead and patched today and wanted to look at the DOD items as I like DOD items. It has been so long since I have played 4 that I was having to look around and figure it out again! I had forgotten how to do things in it! Pretty doggone sad. And I looked at them and thought I do like them, and then exited the game.

ahhhh damn!!! that was hysterical. I do that too!!! Playing TS4 is like getting up and going into the kitchen...then forgetting why you went in there. The last time I was in the game, was to build a house....and that's been at least 3 months now. I never finished building it. so about 2 weeks or so ago, I go into the game to look at the house. I bulldozed it, saved, and exited the game. Then loaded up TS3 and played for like 4 hours.

That's pretty much what I did, I haven't purchased anything for Sims 4 since the base game, I returned to Sims 2 a while ago and am actually having fun once more. I wish I could give them my money for a better, improved and more sophisticated version of Sims 2, but it's just not happening atm and probably won't ever happen again.

Really by this point I would be happy with a remake of Sims 2 that just improves the graphics and fixes some of the inherent problems in the code. I'd pay double of Sims 4's retail price and name my first child after Rachel for that (not really)

My dream for Sims 5 is that it would be made with the love that was put into every detail of Sims 2, the freedom of Sims 3 and the convenience of Sims 4 (I'm talking mostly the build mode and CAS here) key to that would be an option to toggle between "Living Neighbourhood(Sims 3)" and "Rotational (Play Sims 2)" game modes the "Worst of both worlds" approach Sims 4 took is helping nobody; I can't play dollhouse and those who enjoyed the Open World got a smaller, shoddier version of it.

I like your idea with Sims 5. Maybe they could even put The Sims theme song back in it. Yes it would be great if the Developers could love the game again.... it would make all the difference. I don't think EA/Maxis would let them do that unless... Like we have been saying...we all stop buying it. You were smart not to buy TS4 EPs and GP's and SPs. From what I've read on the forums, and from my own playing experience with TS4...I just wont ever buy another thing associated with it.

I will have to dig out my Sims 2 games. I think I had everything except Apartment Life. Couldn't afford it at the time, and then when I did have money, TS3 had come out....so I just bought it instead.

Edit: So if the Gurus finally answer the Toddler question....and said No. I think that would definitely kill the game. Most of the builders have already jumped ship. I'm sure there would still be a trickle of players after that...but not much.

Well... with the New City Life coming out...all I see are similarities to Sim City 2013. More limitations and left over content to be sold in a separate pack. EA/Maxis definitely did not learn from that disaster.