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#1
28th Aug 2015 at 3:31 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 9th Sep 2015 at 6:43 PM.
28th Aug 2015 at 3:31 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 9th Sep 2015 at 6:43 PM.
Mannequin that can wear anything !
I'm working on a mannequin that can wear anything. Every mannequin that already exists are meshed objects so they can only wear the same mesh outfit.
I chose to make one using a real sim (NPC) instead of a mesh.
I've succeed in all basic interactions but now I need help.
1-I would like to know what you think about my creation
2-I plan to add more features but it doesn't work. I would like some help on this cause it really doesn't work : it throws a lot of error log
2a-Interaction View show clothes : sims viewing the mannequin should go to a clothing rack afterwards.
2b-Interaction View show clothes : child sims viewing the mannequin should go to their parents to claim and then the parents should go to a clothing rack afterwards.
2c- Interaction Throw to garbage (remove) : the Mannequin should run to the closest door then be deleted in a fade out.
I give up on the fade out for now (it's not in the package anymore) but it seems I can't understand the 2 primitives "set to next" and "Push interaction" (I tried "Run Tree function" but it seems to be worse) ; I have some troubles with "locomotion" too.
Please
See below the last version of the Mannequin NPC in a folder (.rar) and a picture.
All files are needed, you get a podium in general>misc, then in live mode, the Mannequin NPC appears on the podium.
I suggest you put clothing rack and doors on the lot.
I don't think that it will crash your game but I haven't tested it right yet, and even me don't save the game when I test it.
However, it's an NPC, so it might corrupt your neighboorhood when deleting the package in the download folder. Make sure you test it in a testing neighboorhood !
Attached files:
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NPC Mannequin.rar (364.3 KB, 36 downloads) - View custom content | |
#2
28th Aug 2015 at 3:39 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 29th Aug 2015 at 4:06 AM.
28th Aug 2015 at 3:39 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 29th Aug 2015 at 4:06 AM.
My Upload's text message
Truly Customisable Mannequin : The Anonymous Plastic Mannequin NPC !
Hello,
meet my shopping male adult mannequin that can wear nearly anything with a few clicks !!!!
It's an Object Mod, so it doesn't override anything in the game.
Features :
So seriously, for the look of it, I'm not quite good but I tried to picture lifeless mannequin eyes and a plastic bag as the first outfit (as if you just buy the object !
) : The outfit and eyes are made by me, totally invisible in CAS and are required, althought the outfit shouldn't be required anymore after you first change the clothes.
I used maxis mannequin skin so it might vary if you have a default replacement. So DON'T TRY TO MARRY THE MANNEQUIN AND HAVE BABIES WITH IT, it will crash your game !
Furthermore, when making this wonder, I chose to add a few realistic or funny functions. To preserve the surprise, you just have to download and see...
Catalog placement :
You have to buy the podium >> general >>misc. and the mannequin just appear on it !
But you can't move the podium once it's been spawned.
What you get :
> the podium Required
> the NPC Mannequin Required
> the outfit Required
> the eyes Required
> a "beautiful" wooden recolor (made with GIMP)
Requirements :
All Animations and features are custom or from Base Game, even though EPs have been taking care of (e.g. there's outwears), so it should be Base Game compatible. BUT I have all expansions installed so ....
Credits :
I used Echo's Clown as a base/clone (but it won't override it)
I used a lot of lines in the wonderful Pescado's Clothing Tool Mods.
Thanks to both !
meet my shopping male adult mannequin that can wear nearly anything with a few clicks !!!!
It's an Object Mod, so it doesn't override anything in the game.
Features :
> Dress the Anonymous Mannequin to all the FULL outfits simultaneously (casual, swimwear, ...) - Don't try bottom and Top, it will crash the game !
> Get him whatever accessories you want, even facial hair and mask ! (if you really want an hairy and funny mannequin ...) - Don't try Hats hairs, it will crash the game ! (see BUG)
> Get him jewels, and, if you don't have any, just buy them beforehand
> Then choose one category of outfit for him to wear effectively
> Choose the mannequin's position too ! (there's 10 possibilities : all Maxis Base Game Animation Poses - But you can suggest better one in the comments, I'll see what I can do)
> Viewing it will slowly boost sim's Fun Motive
> And Get to Admire an Handsome Looking and Realistic Male Mannequin !
So seriously, for the look of it, I'm not quite good but I tried to picture lifeless mannequin eyes and a plastic bag as the first outfit (as if you just buy the object !
) : The outfit and eyes are made by me, totally invisible in CAS and are required, althought the outfit shouldn't be required anymore after you first change the clothes. I used maxis mannequin skin so it might vary if you have a default replacement. So DON'T TRY TO MARRY THE MANNEQUIN AND HAVE BABIES WITH IT, it will crash your game ! Furthermore, when making this wonder, I chose to add a few realistic or funny functions. To preserve the surprise, you just have to download and see...
Catalog placement :
You have to buy the podium >> general >>misc. and the mannequin just appear on it !
But you can't move the podium once it's been spawned.What you get :
> the podium Required
> the NPC Mannequin Required
> the outfit Required
> the eyes Required
> a "beautiful" wooden recolor (made with GIMP)
Requirements :
All Animations and features are custom or from Base Game, even though EPs have been taking care of (e.g. there's outwears), so it should be Base Game compatible. BUT I have all expansions installed so ....
Credits :
I used Echo's Clown as a base/clone (but it won't override it)
I used a lot of lines in the wonderful Pescado's Clothing Tool Mods.
Thanks to both !
#3
29th Aug 2015 at 2:50 PM
29th Aug 2015 at 2:50 PM
#4
29th Aug 2015 at 4:35 PM
Last edited by ankoyume : 29th Aug 2015 at 8:02 PM.
29th Aug 2015 at 4:35 PM
Last edited by ankoyume : 29th Aug 2015 at 8:02 PM.
Better Mannequin
How do you get it to run ! Please someone help me And, if there's some good spirits, I would like it to be tested many times. Is some people can test it in their game and tell me if there is bugs ?
EDIT : Now the mannequin can run ! So let me do some last tweaks and I'll post the last version for testing.
Attached files:
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NPC Mannequin_Ghost.rar (362.2 KB, 17 downloads) - View custom content | |
| Description: version 13.55 | ||
#5
31st Aug 2015 at 2:41 AM
31st Aug 2015 at 2:41 AM
Last Version
OLC, I've added some random features for community lots and tested it, but I'm not quite sure what to expect in community lots that are owned by a playable sim ...
Honestly, I've tested it as much as I could, and I'm still not sure about bugs and requirements. If someone could help me by testing it in their game, it really would be kind of them.
I found another bug, quite annoying, the save game don't want to save the mannequin settings ! I give up on this after hours of research ...
I had decided at the begining to end it before September, whatever could have happened ! As for now, I'm really tired, so I'll decide if I ever post it, a bit later, but probably before tomorrow at noon ...
Attached files:
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NPC Mannequin_LastVersion.rar (363.4 KB, 16 downloads) - View custom content | |
#6
31st Aug 2015 at 4:24 AM
31st Aug 2015 at 4:24 AM
#7
31st Aug 2015 at 11:53 PM
31st Aug 2015 at 11:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback !
I was almost decided to post the whole thing and end with this, but you make me realize that it'll be of no use for gamers. It would be a pity : I want something perfect or nothing !
So, first, I'm astonished it took you 20 minutes to customized ! I always test my mods in a no download game, it surely made a difference. You're right : it'll be much more convenient to customize it separately.
what surprised me even more is that I was so much obsessed by the cuzstomising options that I totally missed that sims were ignoring the mannequin !!! I may have misunderstand some parameters ... Moreover, I had though about the whole push interaction "purchase" but I've tried mostly everything without any result. But with more days of work perhaps ...
I think I might totally suppress the dialog : it was my first, it was cool to do but it's not really usefull since I add a way to delete the NPC.
And I know the animation is really beurk but I couldn't think about anything else, if you have any suggestion (even if it's not a Base Game Animation) ...
At last I think the impossibility to save the parameters is irreversible, unless I transfer all the options to the podium and make a template NPC ! Moreover I know that if the NPC don't have any option, it might not turn his head anymore ...
I will clone the human statue and see. But it will be long, because Holidays are finished for me. I'll take my time, even if it takes me 2 monthes, because I think that if it's well made, it will be appreciated by at least one person !
Thanks for your help, I might contact you again when I'll have taken care of the main annoyances.
PS : I don't quite understand what you mean about jewels (english is not my first language).
And in my game, the only thing that really works is the community lots not owned (no dialog + automatic spawning of the NPC with the same parameters each time !).
I was almost decided to post the whole thing and end with this, but you make me realize that it'll be of no use for gamers. It would be a pity : I want something perfect or nothing !
So, first, I'm astonished it took you 20 minutes to customized ! I always test my mods in a no download game, it surely made a difference. You're right : it'll be much more convenient to customize it separately.
what surprised me even more is that I was so much obsessed by the cuzstomising options that I totally missed that sims were ignoring the mannequin !!! I may have misunderstand some parameters ... Moreover, I had though about the whole push interaction "purchase" but I've tried mostly everything without any result. But with more days of work perhaps ...
I think I might totally suppress the dialog : it was my first, it was cool to do but it's not really usefull since I add a way to delete the NPC.
And I know the animation is really beurk but I couldn't think about anything else, if you have any suggestion (even if it's not a Base Game Animation) ...
At last I think the impossibility to save the parameters is irreversible, unless I transfer all the options to the podium and make a template NPC ! Moreover I know that if the NPC don't have any option, it might not turn his head anymore ...
I will clone the human statue and see. But it will be long, because Holidays are finished for me. I'll take my time, even if it takes me 2 monthes, because I think that if it's well made, it will be appreciated by at least one person !
Thanks for your help, I might contact you again when I'll have taken care of the main annoyances.
PS : I don't quite understand what you mean about jewels (english is not my first language).
And in my game, the only thing that really works is the community lots not owned (no dialog + automatic spawning of the NPC with the same parameters each time !).
#8
1st Sep 2015 at 1:57 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 1st Sep 2015 at 2:46 AM.
1st Sep 2015 at 1:57 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 1st Sep 2015 at 2:46 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by olc
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i hope my feed back helps out and it does not came out as harsh. i just give you my real thoughts. plus i was looking something as this already
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It's not harsh at all ! It really helps me (and you were the only one, so thanks !).
Quote: Originally posted by olc
| ad by jewels, i mean jewerly. the earings, the nose rings, etc the jewerly stuff the sims can wear. the actuall mannequin i tested out forced me to purchase (at 0 cost) every piece of jewerly i wanted to add to the mannequin, once i purchased everything it asked at me to choose what jewerly i wanted the sim to actually use it. |
I know what you meant by jewel but I hadn't understood what was the bug with them. Now I can tell that I was certain that bug was already fixed. Try to answer no (the cross) to the "buy jewels" dialog, it must show the jewel/accessories dialog anyway with the jewels that you had already bought for that NPC. If it don't work, It might be due to EP compatibility, because it works for me.
I'm intimely persuaded that Echo had cloned the human statue to make the clown but I will definitively try to clone it, cause it might be simpler, as you said.
EDIT : I just cloned the human statue and I can that it has random poses and even an attrbute 'current pose'. It will be really helpful, even if it means retart from the begining.
#9
1st Sep 2015 at 3:32 AM
1st Sep 2015 at 3:32 AM
#10
1st Sep 2015 at 4:11 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 2nd Sep 2015 at 5:03 PM.
1st Sep 2015 at 4:11 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 2nd Sep 2015 at 5:03 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by olc
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sure will love to see your progress
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As for now, you'll see my non-progress because I have to take a pause due to my work.
But as soon as I come back to modding, you'll know !
see you soon !
#11
5th Sep 2015 at 3:15 AM
5th Sep 2015 at 3:15 AM
#12
5th Sep 2015 at 5:36 PM
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#13
5th Sep 2015 at 11:49 PM
5th Sep 2015 at 11:49 PM
I've subscribed to the thread, but if you'd like to be sure I see it then tag me 
(@ followed by username). Looking forward to seeing how you progress!
(@ followed by username). Looking forward to seeing how you progress!
#14
6th Sep 2015 at 12:52 PM
6th Sep 2015 at 12:52 PM
Quote: Originally posted by gummilutt
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I've subscribed to the thread, but if you'd like to be sure I see it then tag me (@ followed by username).
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I can do a lot of informatic things when I'm passionate, like creating a Mannequin, but the truth is that I'm not that good with computers... What do you mean by "tag" you ?
#15
6th Sep 2015 at 2:41 PM
6th Sep 2015 at 2:41 PM
This is a tag: @ankoyume
So when you update your thread tag gummilutt by '@ gummilutt' (without the space).
So when you update your thread tag gummilutt by '@ gummilutt' (without the space).
#16
6th Sep 2015 at 5:31 PM
Last edited by simsfreq : 6th Sep 2015 at 5:47 PM.
6th Sep 2015 at 5:31 PM
Last edited by simsfreq : 6th Sep 2015 at 5:47 PM.
#17
6th Sep 2015 at 5:48 PM
6th Sep 2015 at 5:48 PM
#18
6th Sep 2015 at 6:48 PM
6th Sep 2015 at 6:48 PM
Quote: Originally posted by olc
| yea. the best its to delete it manually first from any lot, save close the game and then manually delete it from your downloads folder. i did that. i was the only tester and no harm was done. even if it was, my main neighboorhood will never be shared, specially are tons of victorian/bohemian buildings unhabited lol. |
OLC, it means that if you delete the object, the one in buy mode, no corruption happens but if you delete the package itself, you have corrupted the neighborhood you put the mannequin in before since an NPC has a character file and deleting the package for it shreds the character file and breaks your neighborhood. You will not be able to play in that neighborhood again eventually since it will explode into a big fiery ball of corruption and disappear
That's why modders put warnings on downloads that have NPCS.
#19
7th Sep 2015 at 12:40 AM
7th Sep 2015 at 12:40 AM
Starting over doesn't change the fact that this will spawn NPCs. There's nothing wrong with that, lots of people have creations that do, for example Rebecah's farm animals. The point is that once that has been in your game and your hood loaded, you can not remove it or it will corrupt things. It doesn't matter if you placed the object in that hood or not, if you opened it with the file in your downloads, it has spawned the NPC and deleting the package would be the same as deleting a Sim from the Sim bin.
I will be using a separate copy of user files to test this, if it comes to it. I suggest others who help test do the same
I will be using a separate copy of user files to test this, if it comes to it. I suggest others who help test do the same
#20
7th Sep 2015 at 1:12 AM
7th Sep 2015 at 1:12 AM
Thanks for helping to explain what I was trying to say.
The problem with corruption is that it is not obvious when it occurs. The effects don't show until way later, and they are not obviously connected to the deletion, so most people don't realise what has happened. Indeed, this is why the community as a whole didn't know about this kind of thing and make the connection until much later. That's why we try to share this knowledge now, so that as many people as possible have the information which will keep their neighbourhoods healthy
You can do whatever you like with your own game, of course, but deleting the object from the neighbourhood first doesn't prevent the corruption from happening. If you put this item in your game you must test it with a throwaway set of game files, or NEVER take it out.
The problem with corruption is that it is not obvious when it occurs. The effects don't show until way later, and they are not obviously connected to the deletion, so most people don't realise what has happened. Indeed, this is why the community as a whole didn't know about this kind of thing and make the connection until much later. That's why we try to share this knowledge now, so that as many people as possible have the information which will keep their neighbourhoods healthy
You can do whatever you like with your own game, of course, but deleting the object from the neighbourhood first doesn't prevent the corruption from happening. If you put this item in your game you must test it with a throwaway set of game files, or NEVER take it out.
#21
9th Sep 2015 at 6:40 PM
9th Sep 2015 at 6:40 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsfreq
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Thanks for helping to explain what I was trying to say. The problem with corruption is that it is not obvious when it occurs. The effects don't show until way later, and they are not obviously connected to the deletion, so most people don't realise what has happened. Indeed, this is why the community as a whole didn't know about this kind of thing and make the connection until much later. That's why we try to share this knowledge now, so that as many people as possible have the information which will keep their neighbourhoods healthy You can do whatever you like with your own game, of course, but deleting the object from the neighbourhood first doesn't prevent the corruption from happening. If you put this item in your game you must test it with a throwaway set of game files, or NEVER take it out. |
I understand what you say (I think...
), but I have a question : The first version that I had made is not perfect because I think it doesn't create a new NPC : it uses my package NPC and each time you customize it in game, it modifies my package, so much that in fine you don't have anymore the same file that you had downloaded first. It's one of the things I have to change.
However (and that is my question) in that case (the spawning doesn't create a new NPC), does it corrupt the game all the same ?
Anyway, I will warn people as you said. And thanks for all the advices and testing.
OLC : I have verify it : it's true that even the Human statue create a character in your neighboohood at each spawning. And it's a good thing cause I think it will permit the mannequin to keep his clothes on
I'm on it ! Thanks for all the support
#22
9th Sep 2015 at 7:52 PM
9th Sep 2015 at 7:52 PM
Olc, you're not quite grasping it It's not the NPC that corrupts things, it's if you remove the thing containing the NPC info, in this case the package. The human statue is not dangerous, because the installation files has the info and that is not altered by removing it from a lot.
It's the exact same as when you delete a Sim in the sim bin. Deleting it will leave bits of data behind that spreads and destroys the code that is your hood. When you remove the package of an npc-creating download, it will leave bits of data behind that can't be read properly, and that will start destroying things. If you leave the package file, then the data is intact and can be read, ergo no problems.
It's not the NPC that corrupts things, it's if you remove the thing containing the NPC info, in this case the package. The human statue is not dangerous, because the installation files has the info and that is not altered by removing it from a lot.It's the exact same as when you delete a Sim in the sim bin. Deleting it will leave bits of data behind that spreads and destroys the code that is your hood. When you remove the package of an npc-creating download, it will leave bits of data behind that can't be read properly, and that will start destroying things. If you leave the package file, then the data is intact and can be read, ergo no problems.
#23
28th Sep 2015 at 3:01 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 2nd Oct 2015 at 10:29 PM.
28th Sep 2015 at 3:01 AM
Last edited by ankoyume : 2nd Oct 2015 at 10:29 PM.
The 2nde version of the mannequin has 2 genders !
Hi,
meet my shopping adult mannequin that can wear nearly anything !!!!
It's an Object Mod (a podium : Poly count should be 30 faces) and a totally not template new NPC (the equivalent poly count of most sims,ie - quite high), so it doesn't override anything in the game.
You have to buy the podium >general >misc. and the mannequin just appears on it !
N.B. : You can't move the podium once the mannequin has been spawned. So just delete the mannequin and buy a new podium !
That said, it's an NPC, so it might corrupt your neighborhood if you get it out of your download folder once installed once. Make sure you test it in a testing neighboorhood !
Features :
Furthermore, when making this wonder, I decided to add a few funny and sometimes realistic features. To preserve the surprise, I won't say anything more : you just have to download and see...
What you get :
Requirements :
All Animations and features are custom or from Base Game, even though EPs have been taking care of. BUT I have all expansions and one feedback only, so to be safe, I'll say appart life is required...
Credits :
I used Echo's Clown as a clone (but it won't override it) and the podium.
I used a lot of lines in the wonderful Pescado's Clothing Tool Mods, too.
meet my shopping adult mannequin that can wear nearly anything !!!!
It's an Object Mod (a podium : Poly count should be 30 faces) and a totally not template new NPC (the equivalent poly count of most sims,ie - quite high), so it doesn't override anything in the game.
You have to buy the podium >general >misc. and the mannequin just appears on it !
N.B. : You can't move the podium once the mannequin has been spawned. So just delete the mannequin and buy a new podium !
That said, it's an NPC, so it might corrupt your neighborhood if you get it out of your download folder once installed once. Make sure you test it in a testing neighboorhood !Features :
> Choose one outfit for the Anonymous Mannequin in each outfit category separatly (casual, outwear, ...)
There won't be a feature in this object mod to make it teen or elder ... It won't work (and should be hard to customize if the user want different mannequins on different lots). It can be made by creating a totally new object mod, though.
> switch between outfit categories for it to wear effectively (casual, swimwear, ...)
> Choose the mannequin's position too ! (there's 10 Maxis Base Game Animation Poses - But you can suggest better ones in the comments, I'll see what I can do)
> And, the last but not the least ... Get to View an Handsome / Pretty Looking and Realistic Male / Female Mannequin ! (it will slowly boost a sim's Fun Motive)
About the last feature, I'm not quite good but I tried to picture lifeless mannequin eyes and a plastic bag as the first outfit (as if you just buy the object and you have to unpack it !) : the outfit and eyes are totally invisible in CAS and are required, althought the outfit isn't required anymore after you first changed the clothes.
1- it might vary if you have a default replacement.
2- DON'T TRY TO HAVE BABIES WITH IT, it will crash your game !
Furthermore, when making this wonder, I decided to add a few funny and sometimes realistic features. To preserve the surprise, I won't say anything more : you just have to download and see...
What you get :
> the podium Required
> both NPC Mannequin Required
> both outfit Required
> the eyes Required
> a wooden recolor Optional
Requirements :
All Animations and features are custom or from Base Game, even though EPs have been taking care of. BUT I have all expansions and one feedback only, so to be safe, I'll say appart life is required...
Credits :
I used Echo's Clown as a clone (but it won't override it) and the podium.
I used a lot of lines in the wonderful Pescado's Clothing Tool Mods, too.
Thanks to both !
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@olc and @gummilutt I count on you to test that !
I have succeed in repairing amost all the things olc had pointed. But what is left is the hardest, it's for now either over my qualification (push interaction "browse clothing rack") or it needs a Global mod and so much work (different clothes for each mannequin even when reloaded) ... Oh ! I had forgotten the ugly animation ... I'm tired and overall I don't have time for now...
I know that it's not finished yet but it would be so perfect if it could be tested !
Pleeeaaase !N.B : to prevent interferences, be sure to delete all the previous mannequins and podiums that you had (when I do so, I delete all my files in the download folder (4), than I open each game where there should be a podium and a mannequin : I get a chair and a hula girl dancing instead of the podium and the mannequin, the girl disappear slowly in live mode and you can easily delete the chair).
Attached files:
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MannequinVersion2_September.rar (883.2 KB, 24 downloads) - View custom content | |
| Description: all that is needed | ||
#24
28th Sep 2015 at 6:04 PM
28th Sep 2015 at 6:04 PM
?!
Quote: Originally posted by olc
| i tested it and its unplayable. i use boolprop testingcheatsenabled on (all the time) and every time on live mode i tried to put the mouse pointer over the podium, after i just buy it, on a residential lot, the character i have choosen to test it in live mode, lets just call it "X" every time in pause or in live mode over the podium the "X" character needed to be resseted. it is unusuable. even without the cheats it has a mayor error at least the podium itself. |
Really ? I'm sorry for that, I hope it didn't corrupt your game. I'll see it.
And thanks for testing !
#25
28th Sep 2015 at 6:26 PM
28th Sep 2015 at 6:26 PM
Do you want me to test it as well? I figure olc already showed it needs more work, and I doubt I could produce anything different than olc did, but if you want me to I will
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