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Mad Poster
#1476 Old Yesterday at 5:05 PM Last edited by matrix54 : Yesterday at 5:24 PM.
I don't care about anything else they announced today but ewww they're selling custom content as Creator Kits.

While I'm sure the content will be MUCH better, that's not the idea or appeal of customer content. I don't agree with independent expression being passed off corporate merchandise.

Also, "Continued Support" of the Sims 4 screams to me where going to slowly be spoon fed slop for the next few years, and I'm honestly ready to get off the roller coaster. I'm over gimmicks and tricks. It has not been an enjoyable 10 years. It started off BAD and it's currently BAD.

At times, I was fed up with The Sims 3 as well, but at least we got content when we bought something, even if the content was lackluster. Lovestruck was void of anything noteworthy and was a series of rehashed additions.

We're still waiting for a spiral staircase and pool tables, it's wild... and if EA thinks I'm going to continue to fund them selling patches as DLC, I cannot. My Wedding Stories, Get Together, and Lovestruck were basically patches. It's sad.

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Field Researcher
#1477 Old Yesterday at 6:01 PM
Continued support? The game barely runs as it is! And they're selling mods? I don't want multiplayer in my sims game! It's like they took a list of what everyone said they would hate and implemented it. EA seriously needs competition in the life sim department. I hope InZoi and Paralives work out. If you need me, I'll be in The Sims 2 section.

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Mad Poster
#1478 Old Yesterday at 6:35 PM
It feels like they're grasping at straws. I feel they believe the content people want is too expensive to produce, so they're holding on to it at the every last second to release while trying to bleed as much from fans as possible.

Top Picks For Content:
- Graveyards
- Funerals
- Fairies
- Bands
- Table Engagements

2/5 of these appear to be on the horizon but are not confirmed. They missed the bus on table engagements several times, which players have begged for since The Sims 3. Players communicate what they want, and they just ignore them. Very weird behavior.

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Inventor
#1479 Old Yesterday at 8:09 PM
Ok so now the rumours are confirmed, there will be no Sims 5 and Project René is something different then. Maybe a casual mobile game? They continue to make content for Sims 4.

These are bad news in my opinion and I thought, well maybe they listen to their players and add something like a world map editor for the sims 4 so that we can make our own world maps, but NO, they add Multiplayer instead. Something the community doesn't want. I hate EA. They make something that is bad even more worse.

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Theorist
#1480 Old Yesterday at 8:58 PM


I guess Maxis decided to give Flash the chipmunk some competition. Before somebody sez that this is alpha footage; I know. That doesn't make this better. They've been doing this stuff for 25 years next year. They've reduced birds to blue and white pixel blobs.

The Sims 5 is NOT coming... (BIG Project Renee news)

https://youtu.be/YvuEo1vkv7E?feature=shared&t=451
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Lab Assistant
#1481 Old Yesterday at 9:22 PM
Corporate speech at its finest!

Basically, there will be expansion after expansion after expansion which means more money!

Also, they will now lure your favourite cc creators so that you cannot get free stuff anymore because all the profit will go to EA (some to the said creators)!
Mad Poster
#1482 Old Yesterday at 10:47 PM Last edited by matrix54 : Yesterday at 11:23 PM.
Kit's are a cheap way to make money due to their low barrier to entry. What better way to produce them than to hire people who they don't have to give benefits to. They'll make less, but they also cost less to make.

They give them limits, ensure the projects means said limits, and it done by the deadline. It's basically independent contactors with a pre-set fanbase to market to. People are inclined to support their favorite creators. Even if a creator gets an 80% cut of the proceeds, the creator did 95% of the work. I would love to read the contracts on these because they have to sell in perpetuity.

I'd argue EA may creator promotional content for kits and throw up a blog post on social media, but EA is still coming out better on these financially.

Edit: Also, they have an “exciting” patch coming tomorrow. I assume there’s free content in it. There was no reason to release it on a Wednesday, so I’m assuming they didn’t want to overshadow the big announcements from today, as well as the upcoming mit releases. I assume it’s big update of some sort.

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Theorist
#1483 Old Today at 12:34 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Casimir
Corporate speech at its finest!

Basically, there will be expansion after expansion after expansion which means more money!

Also, they will now lure your favourite cc creators so that you cannot get free stuff anymore because all the profit will go to EA (some to the said creators)!


It is interesting how they are now 'concerned' about the time and energy people have put into this game. They haven't seemed too worried over 10 years about all the saves that have been destroyed by bugs such as Father Winter's beard which left the game unplayable. It got fixed eventually, but as usual, it took a lot of chair rattling before anything was done.

The whole article was corporate, boiler plate nonsense. This game has had nothing but issues since release. Unless they plan on rebuilding the whole thing from the ground up, I don't see their plan going well. Since they are going to be paying cc creators to make kits, I don't see them rebuilding... much.

They're looking for ways to cut corners and for cheap labor as Matrix pointed out. Yibs and others are not paid EA employees. Yibs get their money via views on YouTube and Twitch. I'm sure if they work on builds or work on kits like the one Plumbella did, they get a cut of sales, but they're not entitled to health care benefits, a 401K with some type of EA match, ect...
Inventor
#1484 Old Today at 1:40 AM
Lasciate ogni speranza ...

Yet another video on the same subject from Satch. At the end he went bonkers. I totally understand.
Mad Poster
#1485 Old Today at 3:54 AM
Plumbella and the like were given an upfront payment for their contributions but treated like a consultant.

The only commission she’d get if if they used her creator code. Great PR for them but not a great deal as there are no royalties.

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#1486 Old Today at 5:31 AM
It’s not like I had any faith in them to make The Sims 5 good or anything…but this is basically the worst news I could’ve expected. No real successor to The Sims 4 and “Project Renee” is basically just EA’s umpteenth attempt at recreating Second Life (because their first several attempts went oh so well).

The Sims 4’s problems are bone-deep thanks to Project Olympus. No further amount of half-assed DLC is going to change that. If that game is the hill they want to die on, then I’m off to Paralives (and maybe inZOI once I can afford a computer that can run it…). Because I can’t do this anymore, I’m over it. I’ve been waiting out the shit storm for 10 years hoping that it’d eventually end and we’d be given a new successor with a more stable foundation that addressed the majority of Sims 4 criticisms, but I guess it’s not happening (not from EA, anyway). If they want to alienate their core audience to chase after the iPad generation, they can go ahead. I still have the first 3 Sims games that I can keep replaying, and I’ve been a Patron supporter of Paralives for awhile now. Ultimately they need me WAY more than I need them, and I can’t imagine this decision will fare well for them in the long run. The Sims 4 is so unstable as it is, I don’t see it being able to handle another 5+ years of DLC. But that’s for me to know and EA to find out

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#1487 Old Today at 5:36 AM
I saw where someone said they read that blog post as an open admission to killing off Sims through all of the corporate speak. I can't stop thinking about it and I couldn't agree more. There will be no more base games. Only more TS4 terribleness and cash grab spin-offs as the entire series goes the way of the dodo bird.

So sad what they've done to what was once one of my favorite game series. Can't say it's a shocker though...
Mad Poster
#1488 Old Today at 5:47 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Ramaru
Can't say it's a shocker though...

Indeed. Not really a surprise. This is EA, they've been killing off and ruining franchises since their inception. It seems often that EA's corporate rule is "Buy, Monetize, Destroy".

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