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#1 Old 28th Jun 2024 at 8:45 PM Last edited by chitownriverscum : 10th Jul 2024 at 9:05 AM.

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Default Sim having strange cooking/harvesting/eating issues
This is a bit peculiar, and just started today. I have a medieval hood with a residential lot in the form of an abbey, with a small group of monks living on it. My Brother Cadfael has developed some odd habits (no pun intended). He will go to cook a meal, but when it is finished cooking, he won't pick it up to bring to the table; it just sits in the stove until it rots, or a different Sim retrieves it. Also, when he goes to pick up a piece of fruit that has dropped off a tree: as soon as he brings it to his mouth, he won't eat it, and reverts back to the default pose... ditto with the cooked meal I suppose; a "jump error". I replaced the Highland Hearth with another cooker, but it was the same problem. Likewise, when harvesting produce for food, he can't pick up the basket - he stoops down but can't pick it up. Finally, when watering plants in the garden, he holds the can behind his back in an awkward pose, like a demon has possessed his arm or something (to use a medieval metaphor). Other activities he does normally; it's just the ones to do with food that are messed up, and none of the other residents are affected. Is there something that the Lot Debugger can do to fix it? I tried re-enabling controls, but that didn't do the trick. I suppose I should just delete him and exit, let him re-spawn maybe. What's the best solution?

P.S. - When totally famished, he CAN successfully complete the autonomous "stuff face" action, which relieves his hunger a bit. Otherwise, though, I'm using the Blender a lot to keep him from starving.

EDIT - I noticed he was holding his hand in a position like he was carrying a phantom harvest basket. Then, when he went to read a book, he was making the correct motions, but the book itself was lying on the ground by the shelf, its pages turning as if by a ghost! So it's not just food-related. Time to call an exorcist?

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#2 Old 28th Jun 2024 at 10:41 PM
Reenable controls is for when the save, build, buy, exit options stay blanked out. It won't help for errors.
Turn on debug mode and post an error log.

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#3 Old 28th Jun 2024 at 11:38 PM
My first action would be to force error on him, second would be to delete him off the lot with the hand tool, save and and reload the lot. After that I would investigate further.

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#4 Old 28th Jun 2024 at 11:47 PM Last edited by simmer22 : 28th Jun 2024 at 11:59 PM.
If it's just on this lot, it could be some stuck items. Forcing an error/reset on the sim could help, possibly batbox to clear stuck items (does it also remove stuck object accessories?).


If similar things also happens on other lots, it's most likely mod conflicts.

If you haven't already, turn on testingcheats/debug mode (boolProp testingCheatsEnabled true). Sounds like you're having jump bugs, which really is just a bunch of errors that auto resets. Turning on testingcheats will cause an error report to be made when the error occurs, and you can more easily investigate further (using tools like "What Caused This?" and HCDU+, to start with, if it's possible it's mod-related).

Some mods can cause bugs even if they've been "dormant" for quite some time. Moving files around, renaming, putting in new files (even if it's just one that seems completely unrelated), or pairing a modded object set with an incompatible mod.
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#5 Old 28th Jun 2024 at 11:55 PM
Turn on debug mode and post the error log.
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#6 Old 29th Jun 2024 at 5:29 PM
No error codes show up as he attempts to perform the action, even with testing cheats on. Also, forcing an error on him gave no result.

Which particular function of the Batbox would I use? Nuke stuck fx? Or should I just delete him and reload the lot first, and then try something else if that doesn't work?

Screenshot of his "demon claw" hand.
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#7 Old 29th Jun 2024 at 6:53 PM
Looks like whatever the last action was that he couldn't complete, his hand stays in that pose. I just had him try to put away an unfinished ingredient platter, and his hand stayed in position afterwards.
Just now he's trying unsuccessfully to pull a book from the shelf. Okay, enough of that. There are apples to pick. THAT, he can do. 8 apples into the inventory. Pulling weeds, no problem. Trying the beehive... No, he makes the honey-gathering motion, but no honey appears. He also can't pick up the newspaper.
Okay, an update - just got an error. In object "N013_User00039 - Brother" #443. A tree break was encountered. I'll look at the log in a few minutes. In the meantime, I've deleted him from Buy Mode, saved and exited to the hood, and now he's back to normal, demon exorcised. After I quit playing, I'll look at the log. One of the "advantages" to having old internet browsers is that I have to go on this forum using my phone, which I can do while I'm still in the game.

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#8 Old 29th Jun 2024 at 10:14 PM
Well, apparently the error code txt file is too big to attach here... can only go up to 65k? I could look through it for something in particular, if you all think it'd be useful... or I could paste the text in a reply, but it's... kind of long.

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#9 Old 29th Jun 2024 at 11:04 PM
Either pack and then attach the file as a zip, or post the text in [spoiler] tags (so it doesn't take ages to scroll unless you want to look at the error).

There has been some issues with posting TXTs for a while now - doesn't seem to matter much how small they are.
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#10 Old 30th Jun 2024 at 12:09 AM
Quote: Originally posted by chitownriverscum
Also, when he goes to pick up a piece of fruit that has dropped off a tree: as soon as he brings it to his mouth, he won't eat it, and reverts back to the default pose...


This isn't the default Maxis fruit trees. It sounds like you're using Sun & Moon's fruit trees.

Run the erorr log through What Caused This and see what mods come up.

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#11 Old 30th Jun 2024 at 3:51 AM
Here is a zip. I'm on a Mac, so I can't run any of those fancy mod-checking programs.
Attached files:
File Type: zip  ObjectError_N013_t222279.zip (17.5 KB, 7 downloads)

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#12 Old 30th Jun 2024 at 2:19 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Bulbizarre
This isn't the default Maxis fruit trees. It sounds like you're using Sun & Moon's fruit trees.


Could also be the Castaway trees.
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#13 Old 5th Jul 2024 at 4:14 PM
Anyone have a chance to look over the error log yet? Although the issue is pretty much resolved, I'd like to know what caused it, so I can keep an eye on such situations in the future.

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I wraps my hair around my bare,
And down the road I goes.
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#15 Old 5th Jul 2024 at 5:08 PM
How did you resolve it?
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#16 Old 6th Jul 2024 at 2:43 AM
Quote: Originally posted by chitownriverscum
Anyone have a chance to look over the error log yet? Although the issue is pretty much resolved, I'd like to know what caused it, so I can keep an eye on such situations in the future.


The error log talks about counter globals and plates - looks like the sim was trying to grab a dish from the counter? Nothing to do with trees at that stage. It seems to be an animation error...but I'm a novice at reading error logs, so someone else may have better information for you.

I don't think anyone can check for you using 'What Caused This' or similar, because it works by checking the log against your downloads folder. Which obviously, no-one else has.

Glad you could resolve the issue by a temporary deletion of the sim.

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#17 Old 8th Jul 2024 at 4:34 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
How did you resolve it?


I just deleted him, saved and went back to the hood; he reverted to normal behavior once I re-entered the lot.

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And down the road I goes.
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