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#201 Old 3rd Aug 2025 at 2:39 PM
This may well already be known but since I for some cockamamie reason a week or so ago I decided to start comparing GUIDs between beta and final... so here's the full list I was able to come up with (format: "Beta OBJD Name = Final OBJD Name (part/all of final catalog name)"):

AnimTester = ???? (not Bones)
Aquarium = Aquarium (Poseidon's Adventure)
Bed = Bed - Double - Moderate (Napoleon Sleigh)
Bed Expensive = ????
Book = ????
Bookshelf Moderate = ????
Chair Moderate = Chair - Living Room - Cheap 1 (Sioux Sity)
Coffee Table Moderate = Coffee Table Moderate (10W-40) (Wow! It really kept that GUID the entire time!)
CoffeeCup = ????
Computer = Computer - Moderate (Microscotch Covetta)
Counter = Counter - Kitchen - Cheap 1 (Numica)
Counter Expensive 1 = Counter - Kitchen - Expensive #1 (Barcelona Outcurve)
Counter Expensive 2 = Counter - Kitchen - Expensive #2 (Barcelona Incurve)
Destination = Destination - For Go Here & Shoo
DiagDoor = ????
Dishwasher = ????
Door1 = Door - Window (Federal) (Federal Lattice Window Door)
Dresser Expensive = ????
Dunne Uh = ????
Easel = Easel
End Table Moderate = Table - End - Moderate 1 ("Anywhere")
Flamingo = Flamingo (Pink Flamingo)
Floor Lamp Expensive = ????
Floor Lamp Moderate = Lamp - Floor - Cheap (Halogen Heaven)
Food Processor = Food Processor (XLR8R)
Fritz Frisbee = NPC Pizza Dude ("original GUID" only, actual GUID different; may mean he was cloned off Fritz)
High Shrub = ????
House Plant = Plant - Floor - Rubber (Rubber Tree)
Josephine Solo = ????
Kitchen Chair = Chair - Dining - Very Expensive (Parisienne)
Level 1 = ????
Level 2 = ????
Level 3 = ????
Level 4 = ????
Low Shrub1 = Shrub - Hedge Low (Boxwood)
Meal = Food - Regular Meal
Mercedes = ????
Microwave = Stove - Microwave (Positive Potential)
Mirror Expensive = ????
Nightstand Expensive = ????
Outside = KNOWN MISSING in final (is what triggers "missing objects" dialog on House11)
Painting Expensive = ????
Painting Moderate = ????
Phone = Phone - Table (SCTC BR-8 Standard Telephone)
Puddle = ???? (not Flood)
Refrigerator = Fridge - Cheap (Llamark) ("original GUID" only, actual GUID different; may be clone)
Refrigerator Expensive = ????
Ross = ????
Sam = ????
Shower = Shower
Sigmund Silver = ????
Sink = Sink - Kitchen - Cheap (SpaceMiser)
Sink Expensive = Sink - Kitchen - Expensive (Epikouros)
Snack = Food - Bag of Chips
Social = ???? (not Social Interactions)
Sofa - 2 tiles = Sofa - Loveseat - Cheap 1 (Contempto Loveseat)
Sofa - 3 tiles = Sofa - Cheap 1 (Contempo Couch)
Sofa Chair = ????
Sofa Moderate 1x3 = Sofa - Expensive 1 (Deiter)
Stereo = Stereo - Boombox (Down Wit Dat) ("original GUID" only, actual GUID different)
Stove = Stove - Cheap (Dialectric)
Stove Expensive = Stove - Expensive (Pyrotorre) (interestingly has a different original GUID, can't check original GUIDs in beta)
Table 1x1 = ????
Table 3x2 = ????
The Colonel = ????
The Duchess = ????
Tile Cursor = Tile Cursor
Toilet = Toilet - Cheap (Hygeia-O-Matic)
Trash Can = Trash Can Inside
Tub = Tub - Cheap (Justa Bathtub)
TV = ????
TV Large = ????
TV Small = Television - Cheap (Monochrome) ("original GUID" only, actual GUID different)
Wall Cursor = Wall Cursor
Window = Window - Circular (El Sol Window) ("original GUID" only, actual GUID different)

It's interesting which of these objects are really different looking (as compared with some other one which might look similar but maybe lack any GUID relation) and which are really close to the same looking.
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#202 Old 5th Aug 2025 at 3:25 PM Last edited by LUCPIX : 11th Aug 2025 at 6:08 PM.
Nice that you went ahead and spotted the character identifiers as well --- it makes perfect sense to me that the pizza dude is merely a post-rehab Fritz


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#203 Old 5th Aug 2025 at 3:43 PM
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#204 Old 5th Aug 2025 at 5:33 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample
Fritz' day job!


Is he you?


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#205 Old 10th Aug 2025 at 9:21 PM Last edited by LUCPIX : 10th Aug 2025 at 9:47 PM.
@purplewowies; that YouTuber is having a blast with your aquarium/end+coffee table set!




(Edit: couldn't help but notice that none of the custom sound events play in their game....... I wish I had a second PC close to me right now so I could see if it happens in spite of the (hypothetically) correct placement of the CC folders. But part of me believes that if it were a design mistake, I'd be sent plenty of angry emails @ this point )


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#206 Old 10th Aug 2025 at 11:09 PM
If it helps, IIRC your objects' sounds play in my dev copy (well. with a stray C++ error or two sometimes) and I think also mostly or entirely play on my actual installation, where the likelihood of a sound ID conflict is potentially higher due to the number of objects. 🤔

(The aquarium's *definitely* play in both places for me or I would have probably held off on uploading it.)

I've been thinking once I finally solve all the bed issues I might have it use final game audio just because I really don't want to control for if the snoring goes awry lol

As it stands, I've stepped briefly away from Sims coding to put together a new computer and learn my way around Linux. (My Sims CDs will not install via Wine because for whatever reason the installer has decided it doesn't recognize disc 2 of Deluxe so I can't get to the point of even having a base game. That is okay because I still have the Windows laptop... I was just hoping to code on a bigger screen! )
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#207 Old 11th Aug 2025 at 5:59 PM Last edited by LUCPIX : 11th Aug 2025 at 6:10 PM.
Thank you - one day it will be timely to set up a public spreadsheet (a la Magic Cookie Database) where people let others know of the sound event ids that they are using in their own custom objects! The last time that I assigned a custom FWAV for a port, I did make sure to look up for the number that directly follows the lastest (as in highest numerically) id used by an MM object. IIRC it helped me to fix this old problem where sounds wouldn't play on the Legacy ports here on my end.

But then again, if anyone else's ports are frustratingly silent, irrespective of them following the instructions correctly, let us know! As Maxis aficionados, we mostly learn things by doing the things that it take for us to learn the things that we learn by doing!

And oh, yeah, in this stage I'm also ferociously avoiding the importation of the non-Lawlor and non-Kaerin simlish sfx to the objects LOL

My growing need for cyberprivacy is begging me to set up a Linux (I'm a recovering data giver! Only very recently I traded all the Chromium crap for Firefox and other browsers..._ and the legends have it it's the perfect OS for those who want to experience a bug-free Sims 2, eh?

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Edit: I think I will schedule for this weekend a commented video where I navigate 2000's and 1998's Edith Bunker 1.0 (how can both of them be 1.0 when they're so different?) to showcase the odd "beta" leftovers that are exclusive to the flamingo object!


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#208 Old 13th Aug 2025 at 7:56 AM
Ha, I went for Linux because I was due for a new computer and really really didn't want Windows 11 specifically (for privacy AND aesthetic reasons). Plus, I was building the PC from scratch and this way I don't have to pay for an OS if I don't want to. (Meanwhile my moving from Android to GrapheneOS was a function of "I want a degoogled phone but it needs to still be able to run Android apps (so I can keep trying to code some) and also I have exactly one app that needs to ping Google Play to give me premium features".)

...I got someone with a Linux virtual machine to test installing Deluxe by using Wine and they had the same problem as me; their guess is it's weirdness with how the computer is mounting the drive... 🤔 (Though I probably won't try to figure out how to fix that if so, I mostly tried installing it as a test. :P)
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