How do you run services as businesses? I know some people do things like playable hospitals and clinics. Do you use ofb's system for this or do you just summon sick sims to the lot? That's just an example

What are objects enabled for OFB businesses? For example, the salon chair lets you assign a Sim to work with it and costumers pay to get makeovers. I'm interested in both CC and Maxis objects that work like this.

I hope these questions make sense, I'm a bit tired. Thank you

I imagine for hospitals, people just use the hospital mod.

Costumers being people who make costumes?

I obviously meant customers, as can be gathered from the context.

Yeah, sorry. I see that mistake so often it aggravated me lol.

I have had playable hospitals but not as a business, I just used them as a kind of quarantine for sick sims (with the Real Sickness mod) with only items that would help them get better like beds, chairs, sit-down fun activities like TV and chess and bookcases. Baths instead of showers, orange juice on tap and comfort soup if I could get it.

Remember you can also use the bandatron to charge by the hour, which works well for items like the career rewards where you can "offer lessons to" other sims.

I like to have a community centre community lot where people can meet other locals, use MogHughson's job noticeboard to search for jobs, train some basic skills and there is normally a bingo hall in there too

Youth clubs are fun - plop down an item which spawns an NPC, like the break dancer, to make it feel like there is some kind of adult supervision, and use the visitor controller to ban adults and elders.

The mod from Simlogical which makes the dorm stove spawn a cook on any lot is also good for public services like a soup kitchen.

Baths make disease worse, not better, since they don't count as sitting and take much longer than a shower.

Ah but they increase comfort, and if you have them in cheap beds to make them sleep longer, their comfort motive is often low. Comfort and energy are both important, according to this: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/s...pic,5200.0.html

Sims will sleep through to 6 AM regardless of bed quality or when their energy fills up. Cyjon's More Sleeping mod will also allow them to go to sleep after midnight even if they aren't tired. That gives you the six hours of sleeping at night and then potentially a daytime sleep if their energy gets low enough during the day, I find that's generally enough sleeping to recover quickly. There's no reason to torture sims with bad beds.

What, really? WTF EA, I want to see all your employees that stand up to take a bath!

If a sick sim isn't tired then I just send them to bed to relax (read a book, daydream, watch TV).

Some imagination and a cocktail of mods and CC. Click the tiny link about business and careers near the bottom of my signature, it is old but it will give you some ideas.

I prefer my cocktail to run my clinic/hospital (depends how large the town and the building is) rather the CH hospital mod. I am very much a sandbox player, meaning I like to call the shots. I use the old PC sims doctor bag for some diagnoses, the meeting controller to bring the nurse, Monique's hacked computer to write articles, the simwardrobe janitor controller (forget the actual name) for my guy to clean up, The mirror teleporter to bring over patients, The simlogical school sign so my staff like my doctor can be there and not be 'at work'. PC sims eye chart, a pregnancy test, pc sims medicines, lots of cc like posters, water cooler, beds etc.

Simlogica school, but while my families pay fees (depends on the hood) I do that manually with either the wallet token controller of Monique's computer..

Anything that I decide I want, I find some way to simulate. I start what I want the business or service to be, I do a lot of googling and notes and try to think and look for ways I might achieve it. Not always very well, my fire service for example can't go and put out fires but they can drive a fire truck, be in a fire fighter career, have the NPC look like my playable fire fighter and they can sell what I feel a fire station might sell; like written books on fire safety (sim writes a novel and I sell those those), toy fire engines, smoke alarms and sprinklers.

But single items like the makeover chair? Not really.

If you play historically or even in some modern settings you can't go past Sun&moon items. For example a herb and spice shop could be set up by growing their plants and selling those fresh and or dried.
These are mostly very large sets requiring not only other sets but the manuals to use. Some things are fairly simply though like the furniture weaving set. Your sim in a modern hood could craft hand woven furniture and sell it along with (and here is a plug) the new perfumes that Gina released https://gdayars.home.blog/2024/07/0...ic-perfume-set/ some spices and other bohemian items. I always have a gift store once a hood is large enough.
The downfall of all of this is it takes oodles of custom content.

Link to hospital mod in the first post in this linked thread, in case anyone reading this is wondering!
https://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=603534


I always find that sims with luxurious beds will do stupid things like wake up at 4am to sigh about throwing a bad party. So that's one reason!

This also makes sickness worse, since relaxing on a bed doesn't count as sitting. You need to make them do something that requires sitting down.

Bad memories waking sims up is fixed by lesswhiny. If you still want sims to react to bad memories while awake, I made a mod to use in addition to or instead of lesswhiny that just stops them from waking up in the middle of the night, which I might post here at some point. By the way, it doesn't have anything to do with how rested they are, unrested sims sleeping on a bad bed will also wake up.

Come on, EA! They're literally lying down, wtf! Weird that it always seemed to make my sims better. I don't understand sickness anymore.



lesswhiny stops nightmares? Geez, I thought that I'd found all Pescado's little inserts.

Someone really ought to make a mod that fixes all the stupidnesses with sickness

In theory you could make it so that relaxing in bed or taking a bath improves sickness, but I don't know if there are some CC beds and bathtubs that would mess that up by having custom interactions or TTABs. You could just check the category of the object in use, although that would also have the effect of making tub pirating and possibly also woohoo/making out/etc in a bed also improve sickness.

These aren't nightmares. I believe nightmares just cause the sim to toss and turn, and they don't actually wake up, and they are triggered by low aspiration rather than bad memories. This is just sims interrupting their actions to remember recent bad memories, when their current action is "sleeping" it gets interrupted the same way any other interaction is interrupted. lesswhiny actually prevents sims from remembering bad memories at all.

Well yes of course you can mod anything out, but my point is that there is a reason to keep lower quality beds, it depends on how you play. I started using fewer mods and also fewer of the aspiration benefits, because I find that if sims never lack in comfort and energy it makes gameplay somewhat bland. You never see the challenge of having to get a sim through a working day when they had a bad night's sleep, or trying to skill and socialise them when they need comfort and don't have much money. I am sure I see the mulling over bad memories in the night thing more with sims who are fully rested and comforted, but I've never documented it or thoroughly tested it, but how comfortable a sim is in a day makes a lot of impact on what they can do and what they will choose to do on freewill.

I think lesswhiny might be getting the boot. I wondered why my sims never seemed to care about stuff much.

Apparently higher comfort does help sims get better, so relaxing in bed/in the bath will at least have some effect.

And I'm saying that sims reacting to bad memories has nothing at all to do with bed quality. All that matters is whether or not you have lesswhiny installed.

I was merely responding to your post where you said:

I was countering that, yes, there are reasons to torture sims with bad beds. Many reasons I can think of.

The massage table from BV works as a OFB service. Also the kids lemonade stand.

I know while at uni, sims can work as personal trainers for people with less body skills than them, but I don't know if anyone has made a mod for that up to work outside university hoods.

And I'm saying that using bad beds has no effect at all on the thing you mentioned, so it's not in fact a reason to use bad beds.

You don't need one, it already works outside of university hoods.