TS4 is upon us, pre-load is now available, and the game will be unlocked on the 1st at 9pm. We don't know how good or bad it will be for us as individual simmers, for casual players, for the series, or for EA and Maxis. But we do have our wits, videos we've seen and reports we've read, and human intuition. Any predicted outcomes on anything in the future related to TS4?

Here's mein arrogant prediction:

*Everyone willing to buy ( group 1 ) will buy and play and be excited for 2 hours.
*Everyone not buying will still be interested in the opinions of group 1.
*48-72 hours will pass, with all the personal reports you can stand being shared by everyone.
*Then, because there is not enough to do in TS4, almost everyone goes back to the Sims game that they were playing before TS4.

My predictions:

Game Release day:
Group 1:Everyone who hasn't canceled their pre-order will get theirs..via Origin.
Group 2: Anyone else who is interested to buy it will do so on Day 1.
Group 3: Everyone who doesn't want to buy it will be reading the various fora to see how pissed off groups 1 and 2 are when they finally realize what a waste of money this game is.

By Friday, an awful lot of people from groups 1 and 2 will be calling EA to get their money back in any way possible.

Btw, I wonder how ready EA is to make YouTube take down TS4 report videos. Don't really know, but I suspect they would want to based on the whole not sending review copies. Speaking of controlling information, it's strange how THEY make fun of Kim Jong-un.

You can buy the game on EA Origin and try it within 24 hours. If you don't like what you're seeing, you can cancel the purchase within that 24 hours and get full refund. So, why bother calling EA when you can do that through Origin?

More infor - http://help.ea.com/en/article/what-...ames-guarantee/

Many serious bugs won't even be noticed within twenty-four hours of buying the game. It took about a month until the complete show-stopper jump bug showed up in TS2. That was a result of Sims having too many memories and it pretty much took their whole life to get them. Once it happened, though, that Sim became unplayable. Maxis, of course, should have already known this but it doesn't seem they actually play test their games.

Wow, once again people here have a very dualistic world-view (seriously are you all Zoroastrians or something?). Once again a lot of people assume that there will just be foolish sheeple who buy thegame without informing themselves beforehand and the oh-so-wonderful-oh-so-wise "Real Simmers" (by which they mean themselves and everybody who happens to agree with them who will sit there clunk their champagne glasses and laugh about the "inevitable" disappointment of the sheeple.

Seriously, how about you people get off your high horse sometime? What is wrong with a lot of you that you can't (or won't) even acknowledge that other points of view from your own might exist and might even be *gasp* valid?

Some people will be disappointing some will not, some will like the game, some will not and that has nothing to do with them being complacent sheeple (not always anyway) but can have a number of different reasons. I was disappointed as hell about Sims 3 and actually ended up donating my copy to a church sale.

I agree with Phoenix. Yeah, some people will play it for a few hours, then decide that it's not for them. Some people won't buy it at all. At the same time, plenty of people will likely enjoy it as well. What bothers me the most is people who will get much more out of browsing forums finding opinions of those who were not happy with the game to validate their own bias.

Same still apply though. You dont have to buy it now. Wait for a month, read up about bugs and problems, then try for yourself for 24 hours if the game worth playing even with all the issues.

Nah, 'cause that would involve downloading Origin (Hallowed are the Ori!) and I soooo ain't goin' there! :D

I predict that there's gonna be a ton of mayhem and chaos.

And that I'm gonna sit back and do this

Sucks not to be in America! In the UK my game pre-load is the 1st and then isn't available until the 5th!

I just noticed that now, what's with the random German here? In any case it's grammatically wrong the German word for "prediction" (Vorhersage) has a feminine gender so it should be:

Here's meine arrogant prediction. Or you know, just use English.

Agreed. There's been a really ugly mindset growing here that goes beyond criticism or doubt for the game.

I find it impossible to say what will happen with this game because I don't feel that I know enough about it to speak to it's longevity. I can speak to it's appeal. It has enough that I want to try it. If it's as buggy as people are predicting, then it can't have any longevity without a serious fix. But, if the problems are minor, it's impossible to know now just how absorbing the game can become. Most of the complaints I read are about how it's not like someone's favorite Sims game. That's not a predictor of failure.

You wanted honest opinions about what others think about what will happen in the release.

Forgive me for not having a more optimistic opinion.

What I see in this game and release is EA's complete deconstruction of a famed and beloved franchise down to the absolute bottom of the barrel FB game. What I don't see is quality, and respect for their customer base.

No, I'm not arrogant, nor a "Real Simmer", but I am someone who demands some attention to detail and pride in their work. It looks like EA has forgotten those ideas and has gone to the ultimate extreme of slapping together a game that in earlier days the original Maxis team would have been ashamed to put out. Whatever happened to quality control? Would another game company produce this kind of game and expect people to pay for it?

It's your money-you can spend it anyway you want. Enjoy the game, because if this is the future of the franchise, you will hear a lot of complaints about these problems in the coming days. Then everyone will expect EA to fix all the problems-when they have never done so for any of the other iterations. Sims 2 still has too many bugs to be proud of, and Sims 3 people can probably claim the same.

It's all a matter of perspective, and mine is not a very uncritical one.

I can't believe there are still those who still want to get TS4 badly regardless of the fact that the game is FUBAR!

Some folks on various SIMs related Facebook groups are even begging local games vendors to sell this piece of crap from EA. They're begging because local stores don't have it yet.. or rather these stores may actually be avoiding TS4 altogether because of its current bad reputation.

And these people are even ignoring the facts laid for them on this article:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=882344

Again, how exactly do you figure this without having played the game? Are you just deriving that from 'quantity' of features? What about 'quality'? There have been many games that did fewer things than others, but did those really well, while others tried to do everything and failed. I'm not saying that this has to be the case, and of course a degree of critical distance is required (albeit from BOTH sides of the argument), but I wouldn't dismiss the game just based on a superficially more limited set of features or the fact that it's published by EA. Most opinions out there from people who have had hands-on experience have been fairly positive, and it has been my impression that a lot of the opposition is more political/emotional in nature, both of which are things that I don't think should have a place in any civilized discussion.

Admittedly, I work for a game publisher (not EA), so my perspective might be a bit skewed. I know that there's no such thing as the "heartless corporate executive" - people are very aware of opinions, but sometimes it's hard to cater to everyone. I think they had to make a decision at some point in which direction to develop the game, and regardless which one they'd have made, they would not have pleased everyone. My hope is for a solid, smooth, fun, easy-to-get-into core game that will be expanded as time goes on. If that, however, is not met - in concrete terms: if the game gets boring quickly (like Sim City), is unstable (like... erm... Sim City) or buggy (like guess what), I will be disappointed as well. For now however, it's in dubio pro reo for me.

I think this thread is derailing. I want to read some predictions, people! And dang it, now I have to make one just for jumping in.

I predict that the day 1 DLC will contain a really nice world, of course the usual furniture and clothes sets, and also some interesting premium gameplay items. Basically, the DLC will outshine the game, which looks quite drab and boring.

People who like the game will be too engrossed to post
Other people will be avidly looking for confirmation of why they have not bought the game.
People with integrated graphics and laptops will complain their game performs badly
The forums on most sites will not be worth visiting for a week or two
Youtube will be flooded with gameplay vids.

A) I've never called anybody that wants to buy this game a sheep.

B) I don't ride a high horse, I ride a llama.

C) Not only do I have eyes, so does my llama.

I guess you haven't been watching the live streams and unlike you, I encourage people to seek information for themselves.

Understand many of us have been on the fence for a long time about this game. A week ago I was all for it, with a few doubts, but after really diving into all the missing content I cannot fathom how this game will even function. I respect others opinions, but I'm guessing like me most haters of Sims 4 cannot see how this could ever work. Keep in mind Sims 4 is nothing like any Sims release we have ever seen before. Sims 2 and 3 had bugs and missteps, but they tried their best to top the last game. If nothing else this is a PR disaster. Also, this is a predictions thread.......we can predict whatever we want.

I predict EA pulls support of the game within a year and a half, and by early 2016 announces or releases Sims 2 and/or 3 enhanced editions.

You forgot to turn in your assignment. Where is your prediction? ~annoyed teacher face~

I've been getting that face all day.

I say there will be possibly one or two EPs for TS4, then EA will drop it.

The objection isn't to someone having negative feelings about the Sims 4, the objection is to the polarization of simmers by defining them in biased and extreme terms. The objection is to an overall snarky and mean-spirited tone. That is changing the culture around here. That is off topic. Speaking about concerns about the game or dislikes of the graphics or features is on topic, which is what you just did.

*Hurriedly adds prediction before ~ MadameButterfly~ says something* I predict...that the game will do ok, not great, especially given all the negative chatter on various forums, but it will do well enough.

Now you put words into my mouth, honey, where exactly did I dis-encourage anybody to not seek information for themselves? And as Terre VerDe said I don't have a problem with people disliking Sims 4 I have a problem with many people (perhaps not you) dividing the players into sheeple who buy the game because its new and shiny and "wise Simmers" who see clear through EA "evil antics"

Yeah I have watched a couple of the livestreams, what's your point? I mean aside from some of the live-players being idiots who for some reason don't like watching their Sims whoohoo?
By implying that I haven't watched them and dis-encourage people to research the game before buying you are basically implying that I am a mindless sheeple!



If Sims 3 set out to top Sims 2, it did a shit job trying to do so.

I'm not your honey. Hubby wouldn't appreciate such comments either.

I've already been through this issue were people like yourself defend everything EA does, but then they'll turn around and act like a critic when a point is made.

You defend this game, but the people that made it are idiots. Mmmkay.