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#1 Old 19th Aug 2025 at 6:17 AM

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Hi, so I'm working on a rework of the world Greymont Bay (for personal use only) and was wondering if there's a way to make some water planes not freeze in winter.

Greymont Bay has a large river that divides the town, and it's meant to be a flowing one, so I'd prefer it if it didn't freeze. I tried using the river objects, but I found they just don't fit right. I have also tried il Grande Lama, "a beautiful stream" set, but the objects were too small to use for this project. So, I was just wondering if there was a simpler solution, like some kind of marker that sets water planes to not freeze or if there are other CC objects I've missed that anyone can recommend (any other ideas would be very much appreciated though). Also, I am new to using CAW, so I apologise if the answer is super simple :P

Thank you so much!
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#2 Old 20th Aug 2025 at 3:50 AM
My understanding is that the water has to be at sea-level, ie. part of the 'world' plane of water, to not freeze - because then it's classified as the ocean.
You would have to raise the sea level to fill the river, then it wouldn't freeze (like EA's Riverview), but you may also lose a portion of the coastline. In short, it's something that can be done before a world has been sculpted but harder to do afterwards.

All water filled in after the world plane is considered pond water and will freeze.

As far as realism goes, flowing rivers can and do freeze over. Even rapids and waterfalls can freeze.
If you're more looking to simulate a climate where it doesn't get cold enough for that to happen, you could use NRaas Tempest or a tuning package to make it so that the weather in this world never gets cold enough for that to happen

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#3 Old 22nd Aug 2025 at 3:32 AM
Quote: Originally posted by CardinalSims
If you're more looking to simulate a climate where it doesn't get cold enough for that to happen, you could use NRaas Tempest or a tuning package to make it so that the weather in this world never gets cold enough for that to happen



Good luck. I have been having a really rough time over the years trying to get my Tempest settings to actually change weather behavior in my game. I end up having to put in tunings that should result in no snow or freezing weather ever to get it to not snow all fall and spring, and I have never succeeded in eliminating summer rain even with all types of rain set to all kinds of zero for all hours and conditions for the whole summer.
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#4 Old 22nd Aug 2025 at 4:02 AM
if you choose to edit the weather by tuning mod, you'll need to write it in Fahrenheit. might need to do a little bit of conversion if you're living outside US. Tempest allows to edit the temperature in Celsius.

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#5 Old 22nd Aug 2025 at 7:46 AM
Quote: Originally posted by lucy kemnitzer
I have never succeeded in eliminating summer rain even with all types of rain set to all kinds of zero for all hours and conditions for the whole summer.

If you can recreate that behaviour with only NRaas mods installed, you're more than welcome to bring that bug report to their site
The developer is still active, but issues that aren't known / reported on can't be fixed! Either he can see if something is out of place under the hood, or the rest of us volunteers over there can test whether we can recreate the issue and what the culprit may be if not.

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#6 Old 23rd Aug 2025 at 12:47 AM
Oh, I've been talking about it at Nraas for years. We can't figure it out. I've just become resigned to the wrong weather.
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#7 Old 24th Aug 2025 at 1:43 PM
Quote: Originally posted by lucy kemnitzer
Oh, I've been talking about it at Nraas for years. We can't figure it out. I've just become resigned to the wrong weather.

I must've missed it!
Was the consensus that it's a bug with Tempest that others can replicate, or something only on your end? I can't seem to find any threads related to Tempest's custom weather not working at all, but many with users sharing their preferred settings- so I suppose I'm confused as to whether I should note this down as a known bug or not.

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#8 Old 25th Aug 2025 at 4:11 AM
I don't know either. I would think that, being the only person who has this problem this severely, it's probably something I'm doing wrong. But I haven't been able to figure out what it is after several years of inquiry.
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#9 Old 25th Aug 2025 at 3:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by lucy kemnitzer
Good luck. I have been having a really rough time over the years trying to get my Tempest settings to actually change weather behavior in my game. I end up having to put in tunings that should result in no snow or freezing weather ever to get it to not snow all fall and spring, and I have never succeeded in eliminating summer rain even with all types of rain set to all kinds of zero for all hours and conditions for the whole summer.


That's odd. In my game, the basic Seasons options in the main options menu seem to work... at least to do what I want, which is to completely turn off snow, rain and hail. Also, as I play some games with only summer, my only problem is that my Sims always complain about being hot.

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#10 Old 26th Aug 2025 at 6:14 AM
It is odd! I am pretty sure the problem is some over enthusiastic tuning I'm doing, but I just haven't been able over the course of a decade to figure out what it is.
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