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Extended family treated as family

by kestrellyn Posted 21st Apr 2018 at 2:59 AM - Updated 17th Nov 2018 at 4:32 AM by kestrellyn : Changes required
47 Comments / replies (Who?) - 19 Feedback Posts, 2 Thanks Posts
Do you ever hate how second cousins have no problems dating each other, or how great-grandparents can't encourage and family-kiss their great-grandchildren?

This hack causes the following relationships to be recognized as family for the purposes of social interactions:
  • Second cousins (people whose parents are first cousins)
  • First cousins once removed (your first cousin's children, or your parents' first cousins)
  • Great-grandparents and great-grandchildren
  • Great-aunts/uncles (your grandparents' siblings) and grand-nieces/nephews (your siblings' grandchildren)

For these relations, there will be no romantic interactions available, but there will be family kiss/encourage interactions. Pescado's autosoc can still be used in "romanticate" mode with them, but it will be unable to queue actual romantic interactions. Interactions with extended family members do not satisfy "talk with a relative", "relative gets married" etc. wants, they are not taken into account when deciding if it is possible to have a family reunion (for performance reasons), and they will appear without the family icon and possibly with a chemistry icon in the relationships tab, but other than that they are treated as family.

If you want only great-grandparents/grandchildren and great-aunts/uncles and grand-nieces/nephews to be considered family, use extendedfamilypartial.zip instead. Don't install both files.

Hack Compatibility Note: This hack modifies four existing global BHAVs and adds five new global BHAVs, in the range from 0x701 to 0x705 (extendedfamilypartial only includes 0x703-0x705); any hack that also adds global BHAVs in this range will conflict with this one, potentially very badly depending on load order and what exactly the BHAVs in the other hack do. Check with HCDU, no conflicts with this hack are expected/ok. This hack is completely incompatible with the InTeenimator, as it adds global BHAVs in this range (and also in practically every other available range, as far as I can tell). This hack also modifies three relationship-checking BHAVs in group 0x7F739728, and two other BHAVs in that group that were causing "too many iterations" errors when calling the global BHAVs, which were changed to use the Relationship primitive instead, with no change to their functions.

Game Compatibility Note: In theory, this should be compatible with any game configuration. The main potential problem is "too many iterations" errors, which is what happens when the game decides that it has encountered an infinite loop after many BHAVs have been called. I have complicated the family checks, but not by much, and a lower tolerance for "too many iterations" may be offset by the fact that early versions of the game had many fewer wants and fears that necessitated iterative checks over every sim in the hood (for example, neither of the checks I had to change are even used in the base game).

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
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extendedfamily.zip | Treats all extended family as family

Size: 1.4 KB · Downloads: 37,267 · 21st Apr 2018
1.4 KB 37,267 21st Apr 2018
extendedfamilypartial.zip | Treats only great-grandparents, great-grandchildren, great-aunts/uncles and grand-nieces/nephews as family

Size: 1.1 KB · Downloads: 8,546 · 21st Apr 2018
1.1 KB 8,546 21st Apr 2018
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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
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Theorist
Original Poster
#26 Old 5th Sep 2018 at 3:34 PM
Did you run HCDU to make sure there are no conflicts?
Field Researcher
THANKS POST
#27 Old 26th Sep 2018 at 4:17 AM
I've been away from MTS for too long...you guys have come up with some great mods, thank you!
Lab Assistant
#28 Old 1st Feb 2019 at 5:40 AM
Confirming this mod is NOT compatible with InTeen.
The HCDU didn't even pick it up and I had to go through every mod in my folder.

But this adds nice features. Might want to see what resources conflict.
Theorist
Original Poster
#29 Old 1st Feb 2019 at 7:24 AM
Just for fun, I installed InTeen and ran HCDU, and it absolutely does warn you about the conflict.

The problem, as I already stated in the original post, is that I add custom globals and InTeen also adds custom globals in (from what remember seeing) nearly every possible instance, so I don't think there's anywhere I could put my globals that isn't somewhere InTeen has already put globals.
Lab Assistant
#30 Old 13th Apr 2019 at 7:37 AM Last edited by hannahsim201999 : 13th Apr 2019 at 8:11 AM.
Yeah it doesn't work with inteen for me
Test Subject
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Lab Assistant
#31 Old 24th Dec 2019 at 6:47 PM
Who even knows their second cousins?
Top Secret Researcher
#32 Old 29th Oct 2020 at 4:56 AM
Thanks!I can use this in more modern times in my BACC or TOT Challenge to reflect on the changes that happened as we learned about inbreeding and the issues it caused.
Test Subject
#33 Old 5th Apr 2021 at 7:10 PM
Bless you! I've always wanted a big Sims family, and I finally have one, which has resulted in: an uncle living with his favourite niece's household, who can't recognise her children as family -face palm- and first cousins who're very close, yet their children don't see each other as family so they can date -face palms again- . Thanks for fixing that!
Lab Assistant
#34 Old 11th Apr 2021 at 6:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickgirdy55
Who even knows their second cousins?


I know my second and third cousins

If there is no Sims.
There is no life!
Lab Assistant
#35 Old 11th Apr 2021 at 6:44 AM
I was wondering why this mod wasn't working in my game because my Sims would always reset standing in one spot. If they are to do something, they would start then stop to reset. Reading through this thread I learned that Inteen and this mod conflict. I really wanted to use this mod. Is there another mod that works with Inteen that is like this one?

If there is no Sims.
There is no life!
Theorist
Original Poster
#36 Old 12th Apr 2021 at 1:23 AM
You read through this thread after you started having issues, but you didn't think to read the actual description of the upload?

No, as far as I know there isn't a compatible version of this for InTeen.
Field Researcher
THANKS POST
#37 Old 21st Apr 2021 at 12:51 AM
Hello, I don't have Inteen but I have Wild Child, do you know if this mod would conflict with it? Thank you.
Theorist
Original Poster
#38 Old 21st Apr 2021 at 3:26 AM
Hey, I think I just talked to you about this on reddit, haha. Yes, they are compatible.
Lab Assistant
#39 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 5:51 PM
I seem to be having an issue with this mod in my game. When my sims get fired, they get a jump bug when coming out of the car, and then 5 seconds later they get their job back but at level 1.

This is the error log: https://pastebin.com/9hy9AXME if that's of any use.

I ran HCDU but don't get any incompatibilities with your mod, so I haven't got a clue what it could be.
Theorist
Original Poster
#40 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 6:39 PM
That error has nothing to do with this mod. Looks related to something having to do with the Plead For Job perk.
Lab Assistant
#41 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 6:41 PM
It's odd, because it doesn't happen when I remove your mod, it also doesn't happen when I remove everything BUT your mod so... But I'm doing a "reverse" 50/50, with your mod in from the beginning, to see what might be causing it.
Lab Assistant
#42 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 7:38 PM
It seems to be a compatibility issue with this mod for Secondary Aspiration Attraction. https://hobbesed.dreamwidth.org/tag...tion+attraction
Theorist
Original Poster
#43 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 11:16 PM
I use both of those and I've never had this problem. As I said, that error is not related to this mod at all. It sounds like you are not even able to reliably reproduce it.
Test Subject
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Test Subject
#44 Old 1st Jul 2021 at 3:47 AM
I had a lot of mods installed on TS2 incluiding this one, then when i opened my game, the sims just kept reseting over and over again; i reinstalled the game and slowly starting putting my mods back, and, when i returned this mod to my Downloads folder, it happened again, then i deleted the mod and the game was back to normal.
Theorist
Original Poster
#45 Old 1st Jul 2021 at 6:33 AM
That's probably because you installed InTeen with this. Don't do that, that's what happens when you do that. Read the description next time.
Test Subject
#46 Old 2nd Jul 2021 at 5:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrellyn
That's probably because you installed InTeen with this. Don't do that, that's what happens when you do that. Read the description next time.

Oh, sorry, my bad
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kestrellyn also recommends you check the following:

Possibly also of interest: my inlaws fix, which prevents your sim's parents from inappropriately hitting on their child's new spouse.

Also of interest might be my found family hack, which allows you to treat anyone as family, no matter how or whether they are related.