Long-Term Relationship Building
Disclaimer: It seems that the romance bar is programmed to show at a specific threshold. If you're doing romantic interactions but see no pink romance bar, don't panic. The points are still being added up, they're just not shown yet.
This tuning mod, similar to MeCoinpurse's fantastic Slower Relationship Progression mod, significantly reduces the rate that relationships can go up and down. No longer will you make friends or enemies within mere hours!
I'll try to keep it brief so that I don't waste your time.
Why did I make this if Slower Relationship Progression already exists? (AKA boring rambling)
So what's changed?
I've also made romance (gains and losses) values more impactful than friendship values. As I'm sure many of us have experienced in real life, relationships can form and die faster than friendships. That said, the values aren't that much bigger for the sake of game balance, but I figured it's worth mentioning.
In addition to that, I've more or less evened out the curve. By default, small interactions will have a very small effect at a high relationship level and have a bigger impact at a low one. I'm not a fan of this, so now any positive interaction will be slightly stronger if your relationship is in the red and otherwise the values are consistent across the board. Brightening someone's day at a relationship of 0 will yield the same effect as at 100.
Examples (images)
Considerations before downloading.
I'm not an experienced modder. This is my first mod and there's a chance I've somehow made a mistake somewhere, however I didn't come across anything while testing.
If you see strange behavior that's fixed by removing this mod, please post it in a comment so I can look at it.
Also, the values I'm using are very low. If you play with a short or possibly even normal sim-lifespan, you may not have much time to make lasting relationships. I play with a long lifespan (and with the timescale slower so the days are a little longer). I picked these numbers based off that, so if you don't play with a long lifespan, your mileage may vary.
Give me the numbers!
I have simplified this so that all positive threshold numbers (from 0 to 100) are the same and all negative threshold numbers (from 0 to -100) are equal. Relationship losses do not scale whatsoever-- the values are the same across the spectrum.
Also there are typically between 2-5 files for each changed value (rel_Gain_Small, rel_Gain_Small_TargetSim, Rel_Gain_Small_Target for example), but they all read the same values (before and after) as the main file (Rel_Gain_Small) so I will omit them here.
These are some pretty drastic cuts but I assure you they feel very natural.
I'll list the various numbers the old file used in this order for the relationship thresholds: (-100 to -40, -40 to 0, 0 to 20, 20 to 40, 40 to 80, 80 to 100) and for my numbers: (negative, positive).
- Rel_Gain_Small (4 2 1.5 1 0.5 0.5) > (0.5 0.25)
- Rel_Loss_Small (-2 -2 -2 -2 -3 -4) > (-0.5)
- Rel_Gain_Medium (8 6 2.5 2 1.5 1) > (0.75 0.5)
- Rel_Loss_Medium (-5 -5 -5 -7 -7 -11) > (-0.75)
- Rel_Gain_Large (16 12 8 6 4 2) > (1.25 1)
- Rel_Loss_Large (-5 -5 -5 -10 -10 -15) > (-1.25)
- Rel_Gain_VeryLarge (20 10 5 3 3 1) > (1.75 1.5)
- Rel_Loss_VeryLarge (-15 -15 -15 -15 -15 -20) > (-1.75)
- Rel_Loss_Massive (-25 -25 -25 -25 -25 -25) > (-2 -2 -2 -2 -2 -2)
- Rel_Loss_TankRel (-40) > (-20)
- Romance_Small (6 4 2 1.5 1 0.5) > (0.75 0.5)
- Romance_Small_Loss (-2 -2 -2 -2 -2 -2) > (-0.75)
- Romance_Medium (10 6 4 3 2 1) > (1.25 1)
- Romance_Medium_Loss (-4 -4 -4 -4 -4 -4) > (-1.25)
- Romance_Large (18 12 6 4.5 3 1.5) > (1.75 1.5)
- Romance_Large_Loss (-6 -6 -6 -6 -6 -6) > (-1.75)
- Romance_Huge (35 30 20 15 8 5) > (2.25 2)
- Romance_HugeLoss (-20 -20 -20 -20 -25 -30) > (-2.25)
- Romance_TankRel (-200) > (-50)
Modified files and compatibility.
Any mod that changes the following files is incompatible (including Slower Relationship Progression, of course).
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000001C9B6.loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_Loss_PickedSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000001C9B8.loot_LTR_Romance_Small_PickedSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000001C77A.Rel_Loss_Massive_Phone.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000001FCE5.rel_Loss_Small_TargetSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000001FCE7.rel_Gain_Small_TargetSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002A8F.Loot_LTR_Romance_Large.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002A90.Loot_LTR_Romance_Large_Loss.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002A92.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002A93.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_Loss.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002A94.Loot_LTR_Romance_Small.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002A95.Loot_LTR_Romance_Small_Loss.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B1C.Rel_Gain_Small.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B1E.Rel_Loss_Large.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B16.Rel_Gain_Large.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B18.Rel_Gain_Medium.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B20.Rel_Loss_Medium.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B22.Rel_Loss_Small.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002B24.Rel_Loss_TankRel.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000006F70.Rel_Gain_VeryLarge.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000006FBA.Loot_LTR_Romance_TankRel.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000007ED6.Loot_LTR_Romance_Small_MediumStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000007ED8.Loot_LTR_Romance_Small_HighStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000007EDE.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_LowStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000007EDF.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_MediumStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000007EE0.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_HighStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000012F0E.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_Loss_Conditional.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000023AAE.rel_Loss_Large_Target.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000028EAF.rel_Loss_VeryLarge.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!00000000000087A2.Rel_Gain_Small_LowStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!00000000000087A3.Rel_Gain_Small_HighStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!00000000000087A6.Rel_Gain_Medium_LowStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!00000000000087A7.Rel_Gain_Medium_HighStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!00000000000313AF.loot_LTR_Romance_Small_TargetSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000000870B.Loot_LTR_Romance_Huge.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000000870D.Loot_LTR_Romance_Huge_HighStrength.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000000876F.Loot_LTR_Romance_Huge_Loss.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000000977C.Rel_Loss_Massive.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000002603F.Rel_Loss_Medium_TargetSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000002623E.rel_Loss_Massive_Target.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!000000000002624A.Rel_Loss_VeryLarge_Target.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000000!0000000000002636.Loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_Picked_Object.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!0000001B!000000000003165F.loot_LTR_Romance_Medium_TargetSim.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000003!000000000001C256.Rel_Gain_Small_target.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000003!000000000001C258.Rel_Loss_Medium_target.ActionTuning
- 0C772E27!00000003!000000000001C259.Rel_Loss_Small_target.ActionTuning
Thanks to MeCoinpurse for the original mod. I picked it apart to understand what I'm doing.
Additional Credits:
MeCoinpurse
Sims 4 Studio
Note from the Creator:
All-in-One: Has everything in one file.
Separated: Has everything separated into different files to mix and match what you want.
Wiggler_LongTermRelationshipBuilding-Separated.zip
| v1.01 - Added Rel_Loss_Massive and fixed an incorrect value.
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Wiggler_LongTermRelationshipBuilding-All_in_One.zip
| v1.01 - Added Rel_Loss_Massive and fixed an incorrect value.
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Install Instructions
1. Download: Click the File tab to see the download link. Click the link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.
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3. Cut and paste the .package file(s) (if included, ts4script as well) into your Mods folder
- Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods\
- Windows Vista/7/8/8.1: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods\
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- Anyone can use both .rar and .zip files easily! On Windows, use WinRAR.
- If you don't have a Mods folder, just make one.
- Mod still not working? Make sure you have script mods enabled
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