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#51 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 9:15 PM
Well, for Sims 1 at least (IDK how Sims 2 works) they HAVE to at least change *what* DRM they're using, because part of the reason people have so much trouble installing it to 10/11 is that the OS no longer has DLLs for the specific DRM Sims 1 uses, so even if you install the whole thing, it's not gonna work unless you work around that.

Which, like, they may well do. But at the very least they cannot be keeping the original DRM in it. Just shiny new DRM, probably.
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#52 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 9:52 PM
Quote: Originally posted by jonasn
Is abandonware a legal term now? Stuff stays in copyright for almost a century, and I don't think there has been a precedent for any computer software to be made public domain yet.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware can explain better than me and my bad hand, but its essentially software that is not sold or supported anywhere. Especiallly when nobody knows who holds the rights.

Note that some devs have put their stuff into (U.S.) public domain which is a seperate thing. I think Doom by id software is one, might be source code only. Epic Games also put some older games (Unreal and Unreal Touernament) on Internet Archive but not the source.

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#53 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 10:02 PM
Quote: Originally posted by purplewowies
Well, for Sims 1 at least (IDK how Sims 2 works) they HAVE to at least change *what* DRM they're using, because part of the reason people have so much trouble installing it to 10/11 is that the OS no longer has DLLs for the specific DRM Sims 1 uses, so even if you install the whole thing, it's not gonna work unless you work around that.

Which, like, they may well do. But at the very least they cannot be keeping the original DRM in it. Just shiny new DRM, probably.


SafeDisc/SecuROM. Windows removed support for it because it was a big seceruty hole https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/wi...isc-securom-drm Unfortunately games using it require a crack.

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#54 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 10:45 PM
Doom, Duke and Quake have really exploded on all plaforms since then. The rights-holders chose to do it early, but not like when very old books or music enter public domain automatically. I think the engine code of Unreal was probably accessible, although not any project files for the assets. New OpenGL renderers were made for most Unreal games that fixed the darkness bug of lightmaps. They probably had to reveal code to developers who licensed the popular engine.

The crack is essentially the core program unwrapped from the protection. It would not be difficult for EA to release that, as other publishers have done on the Good Old Games plaform.
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#55 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 11:08 PM
Quote: Originally posted by eyuri
If this is true will all mods and custom content have to be updated for the sims 2 and 1?!

Not for Sims 1 (as there is no online version of that anyway); for Sims 2 it's possible if you are playing the UC through the EA App, if they remove or update that. So in that case, you'd just download the UC from elsewhere.

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#56 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 11:25 PM
I know there a people who are better at this than I am, so I am only speaking for my personal experience.

But I had to jump through several loops to get Sims 2 to run on my new PC and even now it only opens 50% or so of the time, and won't open again if I have closed it and want to play it again unless I reboot my system. Plus the graphics rules maker was very difficult for me to use.

So IF (big, gigantic IF the sort that can be seen from space) Sims 1 and 2 get optimized for new systems, monitors, and resolutions, MAYBE (big gigantic, MAYBE the sort that can be seen from space) even in widescreen then this COULD (big gigantic COULD yada yada you know by know) a good thing, even with the EA app being involved.

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#57 Old 28th Jan 2025 at 11:52 PM Last edited by ws2003 : 29th Jan 2025 at 12:07 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by bleaksimmer
Did y'all just see what the Sims posted onto their social media?

For those who don't know, the Sims just posted a video featuring the sims 1 & 2 plumbobs, possibly hinting towards a remaster

What do we think? Do we think the sims 2 remaster is real?


Probably not a remaster. It's a rerelease

A remaster is basically remaking a game, modernizing it and adding features.
A re-release is simply releasing an abandonware game that was no longer on sale.

Yeah the Sims channel changed their pfp and banner to the Sims 1, and posted Sims 1 and 2 memes, but i'm pretty sure it's rather a re-release and not a remaster.

I REALLY HOPE THEY DON'T DO A REMASTER. Knowing EA, they watered down The Sims games qualities and made them effortless cashgrabs after Maxis went to work on Spore. The Sims FreePlay was the last good game (ik it's a cashgrab too but i enjoyed playing that game so much ages ago). Sims 4 and later are just cashgrabs. So if they remaster Sims 1 and 2, there's a strong chance these games will turn into cashgrabs, and their "mature features" and iconic features will be altered or removed.

For Sims 2, i don't want the mature humor and features removed, physics removed, iconic features removed, charm removed..
For Sims 1, i don't want the mature humor and features removed, cake dancers turned too G-rated, charm removed..

If EA removes these during the re-release i will personally scream

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#58 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:10 AM
Quote: Originally posted by HarVee
I have a suspicion that EA are not doing this only for money and to "celebrate" the 25th anniversary of the series, but also to prevent these games from being legally classified as abandonware. A very shitty move in my opinion.


There is no such thing as "legal classification of abandonware". All EA has to do to prevent people from distributing the game is to challenge the sites that are distributing it. They don't have to rerelease the game, or make it available anywhere. They already have the ability to crack down on "pirating".
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#59 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:11 AM
Quote: Originally posted by simsample



What the fuck is that? S7? Sims inverted face book logo? What is this lady eating? What the hell does that jar have, Christmas bells? Lindor/Lindt chocolate balls? Actual fecal matter?

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#60 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:14 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ws2003
Probably not a remaster. It's a rerelease

A remaster is basically remaking a game, modernizing it and adding features.
A re-release is simply releasing an abandonware game that was no longer on sale.

Yeah the Sims channel changed their pfp and banner to the Sims 1, and posted Sims 1 and 2 memes, but i'm pretty sure it's rather a re-release and not a remaster.

I REALLY HOPE THEY DON'T DO A REMASTER. Knowing EA, they watered down The Sims games qualities and made them effortless cashgrabs after Maxis went to work on Spore. The Sims FreePlay was the last good game (ik it's a cashgrab too but i enjoyed playing that game so much ages ago). Sims 4 and later are just cashgrabs. So if they remaster Sims 1 and 2, there's a strong chance these games will turn into cashgrabs, and their "mature features" and iconic features will be altered or removed.

For Sims 2, i don't want the mature humor and features removed, physics removed, iconic features removed, charm removed..
For Sims 1, i don't want the mature humor and features removed, cake dancers turned too G-rated, charm removed..

If EA removes these during the re-release i will personally scream


I think you're confusing a remaster and remake, probably. It says it's "for Windows 10/11" so almost certainly there will be changes to make it run better with modern OSes and hardware, even if it's just configuration changes like what we do now. In order to remove the humor that you're talking about, they would need to make major content changes to the game, which wouldn't happen unless they remade it entirely.
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#61 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:20 AM
Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
I think you're confusing a remaster and remake, probably. It says it's "for Windows 10/11" so almost certainly there will be changes to make it run better with modern OSes and hardware, even if it's just configuration changes like what we do now.


Oh? Thanks for telling me! I thought a remaster and a remake are synonyms, but turns out i am in the wrong.
Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
In order to remove the humor that you're talking about, they would need to make major content changes to the game, which wouldn't happen unless they remade it entirely.

Well i was talking if they remade it entirely tho.

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#62 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:23 AM
Yeah, remaster is just doing general updates to the technology, or graphics or etc. to make it work better on modern systems, remake is if they basically recreate the whole game from scratch.
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#63 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:24 AM Last edited by ws2003 : 30th Jan 2025 at 12:06 AM. Reason: deleted the kym link, that site is questionable for MTS
Quote: Originally posted by monijt1
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I'm laughing at how bad the memes are. EA has no proper relationship with the veterans of the community. The Sims 2 community is so many light years away and now EA has to play catch up for money. It's sad.


I didn't even understand the memes. What are they talking about? Am i just an idiot or their memes are incomprehensible?

Edit: Nevermind, i was an idiot. Only saw the 5 memes in their YT

Meme 1: The dude is wishing for bitches
Meme 2: They are making fun of the dude thats singing happy birthday
Meme 3: Idk, also seems like this meme is a beta picture because of the Sims's icons
Meme 4: Idk
Meme 5: Idk
Meme 6: You're being mean to a sexy dude
Meme 7: A "choose your fighter meme"
Meme 8: Idk

EDIT: I searched up the memes that started with "i bring a sort of" and it seems like EAxis is following a meme template. I don't get this meme, but here's the link for the memes EAxis made . You're welcome

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#64 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 12:47 AM
IDK I feel at least a portion of the memes, particularly 1 and 3 are kinda similar to some of the jokes that were made in the marketing to Sims 2. Like that screenshot that made it seem like a bunch of teenage Sims were growing pot in the basement (using the Slacker reward) and some of the "early 2000s horny" screenshots and scenes in commercials (I think there was one that made it look like the playboy mansion existed in-game?)

Also I highly doubt that they are going to re-do/modernise the graphics (too much money for EA) and I'm torn on the possibility. On one hand I'd really like if they improved the graphics and (not gonna happen) gave us options like choosing shoes independent of outfits and hats independent of hairstyles. But another part of me just wants Sims 2 as it was, optimized for modern systems.

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#65 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 3:36 AM
In the community EA/Maxis (but especially EA) have a reputation for being greedy money-grubbing b******s, with no interest in anything except their own profits. However their behaviour over the years has resulted in them getting next to nothing from me over the years. I paid £7 to buy Double Deluxe to get me started. I also managed to buy Open for Business new, but heavily discounted. Since then I have had no other practical alternative but to buy other EPs/SPs second-hand. I'd have bought them new if they'd been willing to sell me new discs. but it's been almost impossible to buy new discs after 2013. The result is I've got my game for about £20, very little of which went to EA. Considering the thousands of hours of pleasure the game has given me, this is ridiculous. If only they'd continued to sell the discs (even if I'd had to buy them from EA directly) they'd have got a lot more. I very much doubt if I'll buy this new offer as I'd rather use my discs. than use the EA app, and have to stay online when playing. Of course I did spend a significant amount buying a Dell gaming laptop to play on, but of course it was other firms that benefitted from that -- once again EA got nothing. They'd certainly have got more if they'd sold me what I wanted -- stuff for which they held all the rights.

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#66 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 3:54 AM Last edited by ws2003 : 29th Jan 2025 at 4:06 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by AndrewGloria
In the community EA/Maxis (but especially EA) have a reputation for being greedy money-grubbing b******s, with no interest in anything except their own profits. However their behaviour over the years has resulted in them getting next to nothing from me over the years. I paid £7 to buy Double Deluxe to get me started. I also managed to buy Open for Business new, but heavily discounted. Since then I have had no other practical alternative but to buy other EPs/SPs second-hand. I'd have bought them new if they'd been willing to sell me new discs. but it's been almost impossible to buy new discs after 2013. The result is I've got my game for about £20, very little of which went to EA. Considering the thousands of hours of pleasure the game has given me, this is ridiculous. If only they'd continued to sell the discs (even if I'd had to buy them from EA directly) they'd have got a lot more. I very much doubt if I'll buy this new offer as I'd rather use my discs. than use the EA app, and have to stay online when playing. Of course I did spend a significant amount buying a Dell gaming laptop to play on, but of course it was other firms that benefitted from that -- once again EA got nothing. They'd certainly have got more if they'd sold me what I wanted -- stuff for which they held all the rights.


I'm pretty sure Maxis is the good one. EA is the bad one. Why everyone is blaming Maxis? Maxis is not greedy, they used to make awesome video games before being shut down by the evil EA. Once Maxis gave The Sims to EA because they were working on Spore, EA made The Sims greedier, effortless, more PG-rated, and soulless. There's a YouTuber who compares Sims 2's features to Sims 4's features (im not saying their name because im probably not allowed to advertise their channel but i don't remember ALL of MTS's rules) and in those videos you can see how detailed TS2 is compared to TS4 despite being older and having less DLCs.

Honestly, Will Wright made a mistake selling Maxis to EA. Sure he did make some profit off of it, but The Sims lost its charm, and as a result, became money-hungry, soulless, PG-rated, cartoony, you name it. I'd rather The Sims be a somewhat unknown indie game if it meant keeping its fun, not-greedy nature. As one YTber said, The Sims 4 is not rated T for Teen, it's rated T For Toddler.

i might delete this terrible reply because she/he/they/idk said "especially EA"

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#67 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 4:05 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Orphalesion
Also I highly doubt that they are going to re-do/modernise the graphics (too much money for EA)

Too much money for a huge corporate billion dollar company that implants micro-transactions and sucks on the wallets of their dear players? What a shame, players, you guys should support this struggling indie company that makes little money! (terrible joke)

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#68 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 4:29 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ws2003
Too much money for a huge corporate billion dollar company that implants micro-transactions and sucks on the wallets of their dear players? What a shame, players, you guys should support this struggling indie company that makes little money! (terrible joke)


We have seen both evidence of how cheap EA often is and of many re-releases of games (EA or not) that didn't really improve the graphics and just did the bare necessities to port the game to a newer system, because it's cheaper to just port than, for example, draw new textures or make new meshes.

If we see it with improved graphics I will be happy, but I'm really not expecting it.

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#69 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 4:38 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ws2003
I'm pretty sure Maxis is the good one. EA is the bad one. Why everyone is blaming Maxis? Maxis is not greedy, they used to make awesome video games before being shut down by the evil EA. Once Maxis gave The Sims to EA because they were working on Spore, EA made The Sims greedier, effortless, more PG-rated, and soulless. There's a YouTuber who compares Sims 2's features to Sims 4's features (im not saying their name because im probably not allowed to advertise their channel but i don't remember ALL of MTS's rules) and in those videos you can see how detailed TS2 is compared to TS4 despite being older and having less DLCs.

Honestly, Will Wright made a mistake selling Maxis to EA. Sure he did make some profit off of it, but The Sims lost its charm, and as a result, became money-hungry, soulless, PG-rated, cartoony, you name it. I'd rather The Sims be a somewhat unknown indie game if it meant keeping its fun, not-greedy nature. As one YTber said, The Sims 4 is not rated T for Teen, it's rated T For Toddler.

i might delete this terrible reply because she/he/they/idk said "especially EA"


Maxis still exists, and was acquired by EA before the first Sims game was ever released. Maybe Will Wright had more creative control over the first games, but it wasn't because Maxis didn't belong to EA at that point.
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#70 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 4:47 AM
Quote: Originally posted by kestrellyn
Maxis still exists, and was acquired by EA before the first Sims game was ever released. Maybe Will Wright had more creative control over the first games, but it wasn't because Maxis didn't belong to EA at that point.

Yeah it still exists but it was shut down in 2015, but i don't know why EA credited them in Sims Mobile (Sims Mobile appeared after Maxis being shut down)

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#71 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 4:53 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Orphalesion
We have seen both evidence of how cheap EA often is and of many re-releases of games (EA or not) that didn't really improve the graphics and just did the bare necessities to port the game to a newer system, because it's cheaper to just port than, for example, draw new textures or make new meshes.

Yeah because it's a re-release, not a remaster or remake.

A re-release is just releasing a previously sold game again.
A remaster makes minor changes to the game.
A remake recreates the game from Scratch.

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#72 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 5:14 AM Last edited by itskatie : 29th Jan 2025 at 5:33 AM.
Soooo will this be free for those of us who got the Ultimate Collection 10 years ago? Or am I gonna have to shell out $40 just to say goodbye to pink soup?

I’m honestly more interested in the Sims 1 remaster, I only recently upgraded to Windows 11 and haven’t attempted it on there yet (lord knows how impossible it will be on that system) but I know on Windows 10 it was a nightmare. If you even minimized the game to look at another window, it would freeze upon reopening with no solution beyond force quitting. Yeah, TS2 has some annoying glitches on Windows 10, but they’re pretty much all remedied by free patches made by the community.

Quote: Originally posted by simsample
They could get their lawyers to issue take-down notices on sites offering the game for download, if they thought it would be worth while.

This part. Both TS1 and TS2 are available on websites like oldgamesdownload (the loml). Since EA hasn’t been selling them officially they can be considered abandonware, and thus free for the taking by the masses. Once these rereleases come out, I don’t doubt that these websites will have to remove the games.

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#73 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 5:25 AM
I don't know if Opensims2 is still running, I imagine so. But if those disgusting people from EA think of prohibiting them from continuing, we should all campaign against them. I don't know how to code nor am I a programmer, but I know that if OpenSims2 goes ahead we will be able to have many new features and fix many things in the game, things that EA will never implement or fix. And having the game back on the market can give them the perfect excuse to molest. I thought I read that they prevented the advancement of OpenSims1 which was already quite advanced and was going to be online.
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#74 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 6:03 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ws2003
Yeah it still exists but it was shut down in 2015, but i don't know why EA credited them in Sims Mobile (Sims Mobile appeared after Maxis being shut down)


Because it wasn't actually permanently shut down and they just assigned the name to a different team. The Maxis brand belongs to EA, and has belonged to EA for 25 years, they can put it on any product they like.
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#75 Old 29th Jan 2025 at 7:33 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Sokisims
I don't know if Opensims2 is still running, I imagine so. But if those disgusting people from EA think of prohibiting them from continuing, we should all campaign against them. I don't know how to code nor am I a programmer, but I know that if OpenSims2 goes ahead we will be able to have many new features and fix many things in the game, things that EA will never implement or fix. And having the game back on the market can give them the perfect excuse to molest. I thought I read that they prevented the advancement of OpenSims1 which was already quite advanced and was going to be online.


What does this refer to? I tried looking and couldn't figure out what either of these were, OpenSims1 especially... only got 5 results entirely unrelated to whatever it is (though something about "open" and "Sims 1" makes me think of FreeSO and Simitone (the former of which had a specific type of implementation stopped by EA (but otherwise allowed right up until the servers shut down last month), and the latter they seemed to just kind of lose interest and stop supporting).

Asking because the lack of results just by trying to find them myself has me curious, lol
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