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#1 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 7:37 AM
Default Do You Ever Use Scholarships Of The Sims 2 University?
How many of you take sims through college period? or even know that your young sim teens can earn various scholarships to take with them on their way to college life as a young adult? I personally have not played the college life in the sims 2 in years even though I have it installed. I find it add too many dormie that add to the neighborhood character file limit in which I also find it somewhat annoying when I try to find an adult sim a mate and find out that they have only met a young adult you can hear the difference when young adults walk and talk.

and better yet? do any of you use the college scholarship portion of the game, to apply for a scholarship first you will need to have that sim meet the requirements the call on the phone college, apply for scholarship.




https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Scholarship

Types of Scholarships

Name Requirements Award

(Hogan Award) for Athletics 8 or more Body points §750

(Bain-Gordon Communication Fellowship) 8 or more Charisma points §750

(Kim Metro Prize for Hygienics) 8 or more Cleaning points §750

(London Culinary Arts Scholarship) 8 or more Cooking points §750

(Will Wright Genius Grant) 8 or more Logic points §750

(Bui Engineering Award) 8 or more Mechanical points §750

(Quigley Visual Arts Grant) 8 or more Creativity points §750

(Young Entrepreneurs Award) Teen job level 3 §750

(SimCity Scholar's Grant) A- or better at School §1000

(Phelps-Wilsonoff Billiards Prize) High pool hidden skill §1000

(Tsang Footwork Award) High dancing hidden skill §1000

(Mendel Award for Oxygen Donation and Repletion) At least one parent is in the Education[TS2S] career §1250

(Undead Educational Scholarship) Teen is a Zombie or a Vampire[TSNL] §1500

(Orphaned Sims Assistance Fund) Teen has no living parents §1500


(Extraterrestrial Reparation Grant) Teen has been abducted by Aliens §1500

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#2 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 8:31 AM
Never bothered with them.
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#3 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 8:53 AM
Yes, all the time. Once a teen, who is old enough imo, wants to go to university, the next step is to apply for scholarships by phone.
That is the way I play; dormies do not bother me since my playables fill up my dorms, but dormies on community lots make for good friends and may become playable if I want them too.
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#4 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 9:28 AM
Yes all the time, I love uni! All my sims go and all my teens must have at least one skill mostly cooking reach 8
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#5 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 11:55 AM
For a 100 Baby Challenge, I usually end up getting them the A- or Better Grade one, since an A+ in school means you can age the kids up to teens. And the teens' grades don't reset, and sending them off to University is a fast way to get more room in the house.

I know I wanted to get a teen the Abducted By Aliens one, but she wasn't abducted, no matter how much she used the telescope. So, most of the time, it's just the 'standard' one because it's easy to get. And then getting the extra money from being on the Dean's List in college is just extra money.
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#6 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 12:20 PM
All my teens heading to uni call for scholarships, do people not? I also have badge scholerships.
Like most people here I use a mod to drastically shorten Uni, mine is 8 days. I probably have at least 20 going through uni in my Ubber hood right now. As they graduate more will come in, so when I am not doing uni?

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#7 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 12:56 PM
Yes I do use them. I'm still really learning to play University, and one of my major problems is finding a way to give my students enough money to survive there. I find 3 day semesters ridiculously short -- they should be more like six months. (My whole playstyle is based on a day being a day, and life being there to be enjoyed to the full.) Obviously you need a lot more money to live for six months than for three days, so I do what I can to maximise a teen's scholarships when applying to university. So far I've only sent two teens to university, and of course they're both still in their first semester. They are enjoying dorm life though, which I think is the main thing. I don't want to use money cheats if I can avoid them, but I may have to. Some students will doubtless be supported by parents, and some teens have substantial resources of their own, but for the poorer ones (and that's most of them), I'm not sure how I'll be able to adequately finance them. I don't think I'll ever get to the stage of all my teens going to college. I still think of university as a special treat for the ultra-brainy, rather than a rite of passage for everyone.

One thing I have discovered though is that most townie teens should be eligible for the Orphaned Sims Assistance Fund scholarship. I discovered this when Baldrair Bluffs townie River Jenkins moved in with his boyfriend Alan Orr. They both went to LGU (my first teens to go to uni) and River got the orphans' scholarship. He had to apply for the scholarship to get it though, which would be hard for teens who are still townies. Possibly it could be done by just making them temporarily selectable -- I haven't tried yet.

I have no doubt that my teens going to uni will always try to get all the scholarships they can. There's no point in making student life even harder for them than it need be.

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#8 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 2:17 PM
Yes, it's a no brainer to use them. Most of my teens get either the Tsang Footwork Award or the Sim Scholar's Grant or both. A fair number of them get the Young Entrepreneur's Award, since getting to the top level of a teen job is a requirement for early admission. I have bigger bills that come daily, so they need all the money they can get just to pay the dorm fees, which I consider to be tuition.
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#9 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 4:41 PM
Yes I use them. When a teen is ready to go off to college I send them to the phone to see what they qualify for and then off to Uni they go. I've just recently decided to start having requirements (not hard but still, Dustin Broke might not make it for example. He might though) which includes just 3k to get into Uni but i'll allow sims to use their scholarships for that of course .
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#10 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 6:08 PM
I love university! I used to send literally everyone there, even with bad grades etc. The money they get from scholarships is piled together into the dorm or rental housing. A lot of the times they can literally get everything they need/want like the bubble blower, arcade games, drum kits etc and even the dormies can join in on the fun! I can't be bothered to handle the money separately for each Sim no matter how hard I tried, it's just not something I think about so that's why scholarship money is piled all into one.
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#11 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 6:26 PM
Back in the days when I used to play with Uni, I'd make sure all the teens had their worth in money from scholarships before going to Uni. I'd start their skilling early, and more often than not they'd have high levels in a lot of the skills and usually be A+ students, maybe even squeeze in a few of the other scholarship variants as well. I think I even managed to squeeze in a few alien abductions in Strangetown, without saying it for sure.

Haven't played Uni since probably 2007-ish (or earlier), though...
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#12 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 10:51 PM
Nah, too much hassle. My Sims only spend a few hours at Uni anyway, just as long as it takes to switch them to the last semester with the uni adjustor, have them earn their degree by sitting their "final" exam, and call a taxi back home.

As always, my opinion of actual Uni gameplay in Sims 2 is that it's too long, long, loooooong, boring, long and long (also long) so I don't play it.

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#13 Old 11th Oct 2022 at 11:01 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Orphalesion
Nah, too much hassle. My Sims only spend a few hours at Uni anyway, just as long as it takes to switch them to the last semester with the uni adjustor, have them earn their degree by sitting their "final" exam, and call a taxi back home.

As always, my opinion of actual Uni gameplay in Sims 2 is that it's too long, long, loooooong, boring, long and long (also long) so I don't play it.


But there are mods to shooorten, shoorten, shorten it.

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#14 Old 12th Oct 2022 at 12:41 AM
May I just ask people who rush Sims through university in a few days, or even hours, What are you in such a hurry to get them back to to the main 'hood for? So they can get married and produce babies? Who in turn will grow up to do the same? Is that the purpose of life?

Surely student life is something to be enjoyed. It's a time to get way from your home environment. Meet new friends. Be exposed to new ideas. Have old ideas challenged. Learn to budget for yourself. Explore relationships and discover who you are. And to be academically stretched too. I believe the social side of university is every bit as important as the academic side. Arguably more so. There is far more to university than just getting a degree. If you rush your Sims through university in a few days, they'll completely miss out on the social side. So they can get back to the main 'hood to become a wage slave and/or a baby-producing machine? And, when they've done their duty and produced the next generation, they can be shunted off to spend their twilight years in some deadly old people's home where nobody will ever visit them?

Maybe I empathise with my Sims too much! But I'll never be a Family Sim -- at least not one of the ones whose purpose in life is to have lots of babies, and then push them into university, so they can get good jobs, get married, and produce more babies. . . "There's a doctor, and a lawyer, and a business executive, and they're all made out of ticky-tacky and they all look just the same!" (See "Little Boxes")

I hope my Sims can hope for something better. And work towards bringing it about.

I think I should start a thread on a more "utopian" way of playing, where Sims can work together to try to build a better future for their community.

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#15 Old 12th Oct 2022 at 2:14 AM
I like using the scholarships, not so much for the extra money (I quite enjoy seeing my sim students stretch their pennies the way we sometimes had to when I was a student) but as a fun challenge for my teenagers. They usually roll wants for them and when they've completed one they will more often than not roll a want for the next and I'm there to help them . The Picaso's daughter in Unnamed Area had six scholarships, including the Tsang footwork awards which my sims never seem to get and she was working so hard at getting abducted for a seventh scholarship, without any luck. I had fun during her teen years! (I don't mean that's the only thing that makes my sim teens fun to play, but it's one of the main things)

I also don't enjoy rushing through uni. I wouldn't go so far as to play it in real time, but I tried using a mod that halved the terms and that was boring - I like to picture my sims enjoying student life like I did, even with some tedious moments and some hard work and money trouble. But I don't think it's strange when other simmers rush their sims through uni either - especially if you play a neighbourhood rotationally or maybe a legacy family, university can really slow the pace down and add very little story.
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#16 Old 12th Oct 2022 at 6:19 AM
I utilized Uni and the young adult stage for every sim since I got the EP. I also make them always check for viable scholarships that they qualify for. Almost all get the good grade ones.

Uh oh! My social bar is low - that's why I posted today.

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#17 Old 12th Oct 2022 at 1:38 PM
Quote: Originally posted by AndrewGloria
Yes I do use them. I'm still really learning to play University, and one of my major problems is finding a way to give my students enough money to survive there. I find 3 day semesters ridiculously short -- they should be more like six months. (My whole playstyle is based on a day being a day, and life being there to be enjoyed to the full.) Obviously you need a lot more money to live for six months than for three days, so I do what I can to maximise a teen's scholarships when applying to university. So far I've only sent two teens to university, and of course they're both still in their first semester. They are enjoying dorm life though, which I think is the main thing. I don't want to use money cheats if I can avoid them, but I may have to. Some students will doubtless be supported by parents, and some teens have substantial resources of their own, but for the poorer ones (and that's most of them), I'm not sure how I'll be able to adequately finance them. I don't think I'll ever get to the stage of all my teens going to college. I still think of university as a special treat for the ultra-brainy, rather than a rite of passage for everyone.

One thing I have discovered though is that most townie teens should be eligible for the Orphaned Sims Assistance Fund scholarship. I discovered this when Baldrair Bluffs townie River Jenkins moved in with his boyfriend Alan Orr. They both went to LGU (my first teens to go to uni) and River got the orphans' scholarship. He had to apply for the scholarship to get it though, which would be hard for teens who are still townies. Possibly it could be done by just making them temporarily selectable -- I haven't tried yet.

I have no doubt that my teens going to uni will always try to get all the scholarships they can. There's no point in making student life even harder for them than it need be.


There are job options for sims at Uni to earn money, like working in the cafeteria, DJing, baristaing, or bartending. They also get money for good grades in a semester. I think that you can also do things like writing a novel or giving financial advice on the computer while at Uni? There's also busking for tips.

You might like this. https://modthesims.info/d/373936/be...university.html

Let business owners hire Young Adults: https://web.archive.org/web/2015101...ead.php?t=41951
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#18 Old 12th Oct 2022 at 10:29 PM
I won't be using any of that for quite some time in my Pleasantview game since it's only the early 17th century in Pleasantview and they're just about to begin settling in that new colony and haven't even started schooling for children yet and nobody is having any children right away since they have to get a house built on the homestead lots before starting a family.It's going to happen in the future when the town has grown and is entering into more modern times.
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#19 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 12:08 AM
Quote: Originally posted by AndrewGloria
May I just ask people who rush Sims through university in a few days, or even hours, What are you in such a hurry to get them back to to the main 'hood for? So they can get married and produce babies? Who in turn will grow up to do the same? Is that the purpose of life?


A variety of reasons.

1. Uni is disproportionately long compared to other life stages. Unmodded it takes 24 days while the entire adult lifespan is 29.
2. It is simply too long to be done for each sim growing up in a hood.
3. A very big part of life is marriage and children. The human race would cease to exist without people having children and so would sims. Most people have 2.5, that is a LOT of young adults to play through uni when your sims are constantly being born and ageing. Uni is too long to play 20-50-100 young adults over years of a hoods life.
4. Many people like age stages to make sense. My life span is 1 day = 6 months. My young adults are YA for 10 days which translates to 5 years. 18-23. I added 2 extra days for anyone who goes on academic probation (they do as I play to wants) or just some extra time to party or chill. This holds true if I send them to uni, if they stay in the main hood and do uni from home or if they stay in the main hood and do something else like get a job or run a business or even start a family. I am one of few who play YA as a life stage rather than just as uni students so all my teens get to be young adults for those years. My adult life stage is 74 days or 37 years. 23-60.
While people age differently in real life and not everyone is going to turn into an elder at 60, I find this is realistic enough and elders do have varying life stages. When they first turn elder I make them look more youthful compared to later. When you have lot of sims being born and growing you need to move the ageing along. While I don't like sims dying I don't want them not to die either as I have so many babies, so I extended the Maxis adult life span more than double.
5. I need these young adults to become adults who will help in turn run the community. Who will become the doctor? The police officer? The teacher? Young people need to come into these rolls as older people retire. So not only is marriage and producing babies important, so is helping and being part of the community. I make sims part of the community as young as toddlerhood by holding playgroup, then playable school for kids, summer camp for kids etc.

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#20 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 12:10 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Charity
Let business owners hire Young Adults: https://web.archive.org/web/2015101...ead.php?t=41951
Some of my teens own and run businesses. Will they still be able to run them when they're at uni, or will they have to appoint a manager. I suppose they can always visit lots in the main 'hood, and the college timer will pause when they leave campus, so that ought to include lots that they own themselves.

I certainly think that teens who have run a business, ought to be eligible for the Young Entrepreneurs Award, possibly at a higher level than those who merely reached level three in a teen job.

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#21 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 12:14 AM
Quote: Originally posted by AndrewGloria
Some of my teens own and run businesses. Will they still be able to run them when they're at uni, or will they have to appoint a manager. I suppose they can always visit lots in the main 'hood, and the college timer will pause when they leave campus, so that ought to include lots that they own themselves.

I certainly think that teens who have run a business, ought to be eligible for the Young Entrepreneurs Award, possibly at a higher level than those who merely reached level three in a teen job.


Uni students can own and run businesses. They can also be given a job with a modded item and a mod shows the job panel. I only give those not doing uni a job though as that would be too much on their plate over 10 days. I think being a uni student is enough of a job.

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#22 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 8:38 AM
I will one day add the campus to Pleasantview as they enter into the modern age in the 18th century and are enterint the industrial revolution when things began to change fast.They wousl already have a full educational system in place by then though it wasn't for everybody in it's early days though the basic schooling did become a public right later in the 18th century and not all children would attend school until midway though the 20th century.The ones most likely to attend the campus for mist of the history until later into the 20th century would be from wealthier families.
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#23 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 2:26 PM
Quote: Originally posted by AndrewGloria
May I just ask people who rush Sims through university in a few days, or even hours, What are you in such a hurry to get them back to to the main 'hood for? So they can get married and produce babies? Who in turn will grow up to do the same? Is that the purpose of life?

Surely student life is something to be enjoyed. It's a time to get way from your home environment. Meet new friends. Be exposed to new ideas. Have old ideas challenged. Learn to budget for yourself. Explore relationships and discover who you are. And to be academically stretched too. I believe the social side of university is every bit as important as the academic side. Arguably more so. There is far more to university than just getting a degree. If you rush your Sims through university in a few days, they'll completely miss out on the social side. So they can get back to the main 'hood to become a wage slave and/or a baby-producing machine? And, when they've done their duty and produced the next generation, they can be shunted off to spend their twilight years in some deadly old people's home where nobody will ever visit them?

Maybe I empathise with my Sims too much! But I'll never be a Family Sim -- at least not one of the ones whose purpose in life is to have lots of babies, and then push them into university, so they can get good jobs, get married, and produce more babies. . . "There's a doctor, and a lawyer, and a business executive, and they're all made out of ticky-tacky and they all look just the same!" (See "Little Boxes")

I hope my Sims can hope for something better. And work towards bringing it about.

I think I should start a thread on a more "utopian" way of playing, where Sims can work together to try to build a better future for their community.


Maybe it's not your intention. But sometimes you really come off as judgmental about how other people play this game, you know?

Say somebody want to just have their Sim squirt out babies, isn't that their right? Why is it bad only because you play differently?

I rush my Sims through Uni because there's nothing there that can't be done in the Main Hood (especially nothing social!) and it takes me away from the game too much. Most of the Sims you meet on UNI are Dormies who will forever stay at University.
I have added 10 days to the Adult lifestage where I treat them as "young adults" and they generally live differently than the "regular" Adults.

But if the only alternative to spending multiple game-session is making them "wage slaves" and "baby producers" as you call it so derogatorily, then that is my right to play with my virtual dolls as I see fit!

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#24 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 4:32 PM
It don't matter how anybody else plays their game, in my own playthroughs when the University Expansion pack was new and it was all I had for the game? at the time?

I loved sending my sims to college it was awesome! but after I got more expansion packs and more things to do with the game? and after I graduated like 10-20 sims or more one at a time? because, that is how you need to do it "One at a time"? I found out that for one all that game time spent in University?

It does not give any more of a career boost than having a sim grow up with a higher level teen job with all the required skills and friends and? out of all of those sims I graduated? I only managed to have 1 or 2 die of old age. And progress past life before my neighborhood stopped working. Because I was not using the clean hoods and I didn't know how to handle corruption back then.

And? after all that REAL life time spent graduating sims? I NEVER got to play with after graduating them? I quit. it is too long to graduate them without a mod in my own opinion, not trying to be funny. But I'm getting old myself in REAL LIFE! and I just don't want to spend the time graduating sims one at a time. But? someday? I probably will open up a University when I tired of doing regular neighborhood sims 2 gameplay but for now? I'll just skip University life and keep all the objects that expansion pack has with it.

Without the University Expansion pack installed there are no cell phones in the sims 2 or MP3 players OR GBA's OR Drums, Guitar or Bass

If I want a sim to be able to get a job that came with the University Expansion pack instead of graduating each sim one by one I use this instead

counterfeit-college-diploma
https://modthesims.info/d/289704/co...ge-diploma.html

hint: using this object also unlocks social interactions only sims that went to college know how to do such as school cheer (etc)

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#25 Old 13th Oct 2022 at 9:03 PM
Andrew,
University gets very repetitive for some of us. I realize you haven't had many if any born in game sims go (aren't your oldest in elementary?), but it's trivially easy without aging mods and using aspiration and career rewards to have a sim attend university who already has all the skills they need for their career plans, all the friends they need for their career plans, a serious significant other, etc. The only reason to send that sim is . . . they want to go, they have a LTW that involves a university career, or another sim wants them to go. If they have the 20 bf, 20 loves, max all skills, or one of the two date LTWs, they may have reached permaplat by the end of the teen stage. (And may reach it by LTA points anyway.) Might be able to with Grilled Cheese (haven't tried that) or the two numbered pet LTWs (haven't tried that either). 20 woohoos can be done easily in university, and the rest of the LTWs are career based or family based and have to wait until after.
So, the sim does the things they need to in order to get the grade, and the player sits around running on speed 3 for hours.

Now, your neighborhood runs pretty slowly and you don't move through generations, and you add in new sims from CAS, and you play with townies.

For those of us who play generational closed neighborhoods, university is stagnant time, when our societies don't move forward, when nothing happens. There aren't any new sims: those are only born in the main neighborhood (unless we play university with inteen). Just the same sims who went to high school together, now in college. There are only so many hours I want to spend watching sims who already maxed chess playing chess, who already maxed creativity painting, etc.

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