I think you just have to decide how you feel about this sort of thing and run with it. If it suits you better to have Sofia and Etsu pine for each other for a few days, then play that. If it suits you better to have them date now, then play that. My take on it is going to be different than anyone else's, and likely yours will be, too. I wouldn't blink at that kind of age gap in my game, but other folks find it bothersome. But it might be a lot of fun to play two teens who cannot get together for some reason--and if those two are your place to play with that idea, then figure out what makes sense for you. (In mine it would be social class prejudices, hands down, which wouldn't apply for those two.) Fortunately, there's no Sims 2 morality police (which of us wouldn't be in trouble if there were?!) and so you can figure out what you want to run in your neighborhood.

Running into a bit of a problem with one of my uberhoods...it's a small welsh town and usually I human-ify everyone, including aliens, plantsims, etc etc but I'm thinking I may actually play with supernaturals for once. Problem is, when human, I usually have the Greenmans run a vegan grocery shop...does that feel wrong to do if Rose stays a plantsim? Like, that's her bretheren she's selling...

Choices, choices.

I don't particularly are to play any of the supernaturals myself. However, where I to play as you're gonna do, I think my answer is no. For me, I think I'd see it in the same vein as sims/ people and animals/ eating meet. I hope that made sense as I know what I mean, but not sure it's comin out right.

I get you. Though, perhaps I just make them run a farm instead...I already have two farms but that's Wales for you :p

THen maybe turn the 3 farms so that they all farm different things. Do you use the farm animals from the Keep? You could have one do all trees, one do all plantables, and then one with animals.

That was the plan! Leod McGreggor has some animals and garden plots, the Vonderstein family own a horse farm with some allotments to bring in money, and the Greenmans can have an orchard!

More of a 'hood design' dilemma than a story dilemma - I want to make a british uberhood still keeping the original neighborhoods (instead of merging them into one town), but that does mean that Strangetown cannot stay a desert. Struggling with how to make it still feel like 'Strangetown'. My thoughts are it could be a little former mining village where a military base has set up.

I don't know if you have ever seen the old sitcom The League of Gentlemen, but their fictional town Royston Vasey https://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/content...gallery.shtml?8 would be the perfect UK Strangetown.

If you haven't seen the show, it is worth a watch for the surrealness of it.

In my game, Angela's relationship with Dustin ended with her being put in juvenile detention and ultimately sent to a supermax juvenile facility for 18 months and him being tried as an adult and being sentenced to prison, so... And then she later ended up in military school, which was a boarding school.

I am currently in a pickle. In Veronaville the Capp females have been dropping like flies. Regan died this round due to disease, Miranda in childbirth, and Hermia + her husband died as well (disease and arson related fire, just my luck with playing nice families I suppose), and Hermia and her husband, Phineus Furley, have left behind an 8 year old daughter, Queen, who's currently 3rd in line to inherit the Head of Household title, after Goneril and Desdemona.
Ariel Capp and Juliet Capp are both stricken from the line of succession, and Queen is pretty well suited to being a Capp heiress. The problem is I don't know who she should go to, and here are the options:
1. Goneril: she's currently set to inherit the Capp Manor. Currently living there is Tom, the widower of Miranda, and his three sons by her. Weird and gross as well, but Goneril and him immediately fell in love after Miranda died. Since Miranda never produced a female heir, I could see Goneril and Tom taking her in, but it would be a crowded house.
2. Cornwall: Cornwall is soon getting married to Ellen Frost, and she's a bit of a social climber. She's wanted into the Capp network since she graduated, but since she and Phineas Furnley fought all the time, and he married Hermia Capp, she was frozen out of the system. Now that he's dead, she's got a way in. Cornwall is also technically a Dane again, since he's currently got no way to inherit anything from his former in-law's family with their current system. Basically I could see Ellen using Queen as a last ditch attempt to get into the family.
3. Hal Capp and his girlfriend: Hal and his girlfriend are due to graduate uni soon. I think Hal would probably be a good parent but he's not business minded, and I feel his mother especially would disagree that he gets to raise a promising young lady as an heiress to the Capp fortune.
4. Desdemona and her boyfriend: Desdemona is shaping up to be the perfect Capp. She's fortune oriented, has a boyfriend that'll do whatever she says, and is prime to inherit it all. Two problems with this is first, Desdemona and her boyfriend are only Sophomores in college, they're relatively young to be looking after a child and aren't maritally committed to each other yet. This one feels the least plausible in my mind, but I'm open to others interpretations.

EDIT: Desdemona almost died at Hal Capp's wedding, there was a fire, but thankfully she made it. Hal has now had a daughter named Sandys so even if she had died, things will be alright

As head of the clan, Goneril's in charge of this decision, not you! That being the case, the Cornwall/Ellen option won't wash - he's not a real Capp and no social climbing outsider woman is getting her hands even on a second spare! The Hal solution depends a lot on his girlfriend - is she Capp material? Would she take the responsibility of a second spare seriously without letting it give her ideas? Would she keep Queen's expectations realistic - after all, the second spare only inherits in the wake of repeated disaster!

The crowded household isn't a big problem if Goneril's got enough income coming in. The boys can all share a bedroom, or she can build on; an eight year old turns teen soon enough; and nannies and maids lighten the labor of childcare quite a bit. If the player has micromanagement tendencies, here's a chance to shake them up! It's not as if she's a toddler.

MHS0501, I must admit that I misread this post at first and thought you were asking about who should take heirship for the Capps! I had this long diatribe in defense of Desdemona. But looking the post over again, I see now that you're really asking for help deciding who should take in/adopt Queen, correct?

In that case, I have to agree with Peni on two points--1. the Cornwall/Ellen option seems really out there. I can't really see how anyone in the family would find that option acceptable when there are closer family ties. 2. Goneril is the head of the family and would be responsible for this choice--and this is why she'd be my number one pick. She's the current "heir" while Desdemona is in Uni, correct? Seeing as her own father took in his grandchildren when their parents died, I can see her doing the same for Queen.

If you're worried about a crowded house, well, there are options for that, too. What's the money situation here? As Peni pointed out, you can hire help to take care of the kids; I'll just add that with money, you can send the kids away to school, too! Not sure what your hood set up is like, but a well to do family like the Capps might consider boarding school for heir contenders, or for the spares, especially if you need to get sims out of the house for your own sanity while you play. I could see a family tradition of sending boys to boarding school, perhaps for training for the military or law enforcement, while girls get sent to live at Capp manor, where they get get trained for heirship. Maybe with the rash of disasters, Goneril wants any eligible female to be ready to takeover. But you can do it the other way around and send Queen off to a cushy boarding school where she preps for college, learns the family motto/business ways, and learns proper manners. And I kinda love the idea Peni had of all the boys sharing a room--again, it is a matriarchy. Maybe the girls get spoiled a bit and treated like princesses and the boys have to tough it out and share.

I agree that Desdemona is an unlikely option, though, not just because she's in Uni, but also because Queen's her rival for heirship! How does Desdemona feel about Queen? (They're what, second cousins??) Does she see her as a threat? Is she sympathetic to her losing her parents and want to be a good role model and mother figure? Would she want to keep her close so she can try to take her out of the picture to secure her own legacy? Would she be apathetic and focused on school and a career? To this end, you say Ariel and Juliette are out of the running, but you don't really say why--could they take her in as a way to get in the family's good graces? Juliette is Queen's aunt, right? You don't say anything about Tybalt, so I'm assuming that Juliette is actually Queen's closest living relative. So what's Juliette's relationship to the family like? Is it just that she and Ariel are ineligible for heirship but are otherwise are on good terms? Or are the pair supposed to be completely excommunicated from the family and they and their future descendants are banished forever? ...Perhaps because they ran off with a Monty? If that is the case, maybe your Juliette wants to get her niece out from under the Capp's thumb and starts a huge custody battle with her aunt. Maybe there's a kidnapping! And the feud goes on for another generation...

As for Hal, you say he's not business minded, but is he politically minded? Can he make the case that he can provide the space and attention a potential heir needs? Where's he planning to move to after graduation? Maybe the set up in his new residence would be better for Queen there. What's he studying in college? Can he be a special tutor for Queen, or help her with her studies? Does he have extra money to hire a butler for round the clock care? Seems to me that if Goneril doesn't want Queen in her residence, Hal would be a good option and at least more closely related than Cornwall.

If it were me, I'd probably do some kind of boarding school, but hopefully I've given you some ideas to spark some inspiration.

I personally would love to hear your long diatribe on Desdemona! As far as what she thinks of Queen, I don't think they've ever actually met. Queen only just aged up to a child this round so she hasn't had any opportunities to mingle with the extended family yet. I think I'll end up sticking her with Goneril and Tom, they do seem like the most logical choice.



Juliette is completely cut off. She and Romeo are currently living in poverty on the old silo lot and making the best of being together. They've already got two kids and absolutely no money for Queen, I'm sure Goneril and the Capps would put out an APB if Queen wound up there. She was on good terms with Hermia, but she was the last connection to the Capps Juliet has. She fell out with Consort and Tybalt super early, actually. Romeo was optimistic that maybe if Juliette renounced her family Patrizio would accept their love and she could become a Monty, but he hated Juliette in particular for whatever reason.

Ariel was a handful from the beginning. Albany was super hard on her for not being as driven as Miranda or Desdemona and shunted every opportunity for affection. She eventually grew resentful of Goneril and Desdemona too, and ran off with an older male townie (who coincidentally is a police officer) and the two are living under an assumed name on the Monty side. Goneril is glad she's gone, and everybody in the family knows better than to speak of her or go looking for her.

Tybalt has also been dead for a full round, he rolled the want to see Isabella Monty's ghost, poisoned her, and then got frightened to death. I'd say a fitting end for him, but Consort was never really the same after that...

Well @MHS0501, if you're interested my post was mostly about options you can take with Desdemona's story since you sounded a bit unsure of her and, idk, less than enthusiastic about her raising kids. That makes a bit more sense now, , but I was going to ask you about your Desdemona. How does she sees herself, what her hopes and dreams are (aka wants and interests), what her relationship to her family is, what sense of duty, if any, does she have? Is she the type to follow family expectations to the T and do exactly what the family needs? Or does she have some other goal or LTW perhaps that she might want to pursue first before continuing the family line? You say she's Fortune--what's the state of the family finances? Maybe she wants to build a business empire and restore/enlarge the family fortune before continuing the line. Or maybe she has a Family secondary and/or family and tradition is all important to her so she will settle down and have a family and get married super quick. I was going to give suggestions for both those options.

If more family oriented/concerned about the security of the line, maybe she'd drop out of college altogether to focus on starting a family. You could also consider this option if she would be the type to take Queen in and raise her herself. Or maybe she'll graduate early by skipping a few semesters. Maybe she stays in college and tries to start a family and go to school at the same time, which you can do with mods. Honestly I could see both those reactions post a fire--how does she view it? Was she really scared? Was she really close to dying? Maybe it was an assassination attempt and now she's paranoid her family is out to get her and her spot as heir! Definitely a few fun ways to continue her story.

And you didn't sound all that sure about her boyfriend--maybe he needs a second look too! Sure she could stick with him, but she could also look for a new one, deciding the old guy isn't marriage material now that she's the heir. If you go that route, you could certainly use the time in Uni to go spouse hunting if you don't really like her together with her current boyfriend. I was just going to ask what does your Desdemona want out of life and the heirship, what she wants to do and how she might go about getting those things. And encourage you to think about what scenarios might be fun for you to play. Basically I was going to encourage you to think outside the box a bit and see if there were other ways to play her story that might interest you.

Same goes for Ariel and Juliette. Seems like Ariel might be content with where she is, but Juliette might not be. In that's the case, does she want to get back in the Capps good graces? What would she do to get there? Who is she willing to move out the way? Is she the type to try and take out anyone in line for heirship, to force the choice back to her? Or maybe she's the type to get revenge and bring the family down from the outside--if so, how could she try to change her situation around to get enough leverage and power to be a threat? Would she have to leave Romeo behind? Her kids?

This could really go for anyone else in the family, really. How power hungry is everyone? I don't see Hal as ruthless and mercenary enough to take out his own sister, but eh, you never know. How did that fire start anyway? Same goes for Goneril. Traditionally I would not think she'd want to hold on to heirship and refuse to pass it on to her own daughter, but it's a possibility; even more so if she and Desdemona are not close or if she thinks Desdemona is lacking in some way. Would she try to extend her life a bit to hang on to heirship, maybe even have more daughters of her own? Not sure if she's an elder yet, but there's a few cc items that could turn Elders back to Adults--a mod to add a wish to the genie lamp and there's a potion from Castaway, for example. Sometimes I use a sim's motivation level or nice points to determine how much drive they have to go after things and what they'd do to get want they want. Some use Active - Playful points to get motivation level, but I modified my formula a bit to be: Motivation Level = Aspiration Value + 1/4 Outgoing + (Active - Playful), where "Aspiration Value" is: 2 for Knowledge, 1 for Wealth, 0.5 for Popularity, Family or Romance, 0 for Pleasure, and -1 for Grilled Cheese sims. This formula gives me a bit more variety in my sims (I think I found I didn't have enough Overachievers with just Active - Playful.)

Hmm, taking motivation level into account, my notes say that Hal and Desdemona have an average motivation while Goneril and Juliette are underachievers (again, using my metrics). So I'd interpret this them being unlikely to change the status quo and making any explosive moves. Cornwall, though, is an Overachiever. He might take someone out to get what he wants. Why settle for Ellen Frost if he can get closer to the heirship? Or maybe he might plan an arranged marriage for a future son to Queen or another Capp? Just some thoughts.

The Trickster and Llyr families are both matrilineal. Rabbit Trickster's son Wolf was abducted by aliens on the eve of his marriage to Nest Llyr, so his daughter Moon Rabbit carries the last name Llyr.

Moon Rabbit's half-sister Angharad will inherit the Llyr name and property. Moon Rabbit will move out to found her own clan. The question is, what should she change her surname to?

The possibilities I have in hand are Starchild (a bit obvious and thus boring); Starwolf; and Starbunny. I am open to other suggestions.

So right now her name is Moon Rabbit Llyr? So then her name would be like Moon Rabbit Starwolf? Or just Moon Starwolf?

Sternhase? (German for Starbunny)

Moon Rabbit is her given name, yes. Her father's maiden name was Trickster. When Wolf, son of Rabbit Trickster, had an alien spawn daughter Moon Rabbit seemed like a brilliant name for her, honoring her grandparent and her unusual method of conception. And Moon Rabbit Starwolf would cover all the other bases.

There is a star constellation named Lupus - not sure if that helps, but who knows ?