Bad Gamers Are Bad Gamers!
- 2023-12-07:
(1) Epi7 had the idea to sometimes give good players the bad outcome and vice versa, and I liked it, so I implemented it into all versions of this mod. The default chance for this scenario to happen is 20%, and you can tune it to your liking.
(2) My project to update all my mods for the Traits Project has reached its next destination. In a third version of this mod, which is based on the Games Enthusiasm version and thus also requires FreeTime, I have included support for a chunk of traits for a further influence on how good/bad gamer clips and animations are chosen. See the description for details. - 2023-10-10: Two small changes to this mod and one new version sprung up~
(1) Reduced the Energy motive requirement from +30 (still almost green) to -30 (orange-yellow). I likely still thought at the time that the motive scale went from 0 to 100, not -100 to +100 as it actually does. Re-download is not necessary, but recommended.
(2) This mod is now tunable! For details, see the new Tuning section below.
(3) As an alternative approach for players without FreeTime, I have created a second version that re-introduces the Logic Skill as the determinant factor for one's gaming skills. This second version is Base Game-compatible; the standard version still requires FreeTime.
- 2021-12-08: I accidentally submitted the mod in a broken state but did not realise it - file has been updated to fix this issue. Please replace the mod with this new file if you already downloaded it!
This mod fixes an oversight on Maxis' behalf when determining whether a Sim is a good or a bad player of video games, selecting the wrong video game clip and the wrong player animations to be used based on this error. This is the first mod I ever created myself, but it is playtested.
With my return to The Sims 2 in September 2021, I also started to heavily modify my game; and one of the modifications I applied was to add custom TV channels, custom movies, and custom video game footage in much better quality than the game offered.
This mod tackles the subject of video game movies in particular. Anyone that has ever placed custom movies into Broadcast/Games will have noticed that the game always requires you to put at least six clips in: ATTRACT, INTRO, P1WIN, P1LOSE, P2WIN and P2LOSE. While INTRO always plays at the start of a gaming session, and ATTRACT can sometimes play if the Sim takes some time to get ready to play, whether the other four clips play depends on a function in the game's code.
However, in a vanilla game, it's extremely rare that you'd ever see your P1LOSE clip. The reason for that is a mistake made by Maxis. If you'd like to know more about the mechanics, you can check it out in the spoiler below.
Video Game Skill = (Logic/50) + Mood + 100 + (random number between 0 and 100).
The result of the calculation is then checked against a constant in the BCON table "VGS - Fun -Tuning", and if it's bigger than that constant, the Sim is considered a good player. An unmodded game, however, checks against the constant 0x1 labelled as "Teen Max Fun" (= 100) when it should check against 0x9 "Min Skill for Good Play" (= 250).
Because the game always adds the bonus of 100 to the skill level, your Sim will only ever be a bad gamer if their mood is in the negative. The Logic skill becomes nearly irrelevant.
The first thought I had was to simply use the correct constant, but this would make it nearly impossible for anyone to become a good gamer, as even with the best random number roll, a minimum mood of +50 would be needed if no Logic skill was present, and +30 if Logic was at maximum.
So this gave me the idea of just completely redoing the BHAV function. This had multiple other reasons, too:
1. FreeTime introduced the Hobby mechanic, with one of the hobbies being Games. That seemed fitting.
2. Video games do not build the Logic skill in an unmodded game, but they do build Games enthusiasm.
3. The idea of a Sim reading a Logic book and getting good at a video game because of this book seemed strange to me.
So I took the hobby enthusiasm for Games to be the new deciding factor for the "good gamer?" question. This value, which can also take on a value between 0 and 1000, is divided by 2 in order to not make it too easy. I removed the +100 bonus, the influence of the mood and the random factor entirely; instead, I added a check to see if the Sim's Energy meter is low, in which case the Sim gets a penalty on his score. In the end, the score is checked against the correct constant of 250. I did this because I can tell from my own experiences that my focus on a game will plummet if I'm tired.
With this simple mod in the Downloads folder of your game, your Sim can now be a good gamer if their Games hobby enthusiasm (or Logic Skill for the Basegame version) is at least Level 5, or with the added difficulty of low energy, Level 6. If not, then they will be treated as a bad gamer, and the correct clip will play.
Since 2023-12-07, a good gamer still has a 20% chance (by default) to fail in gaming, and a bad gamer has a 20% chance (by default) to have a good gaming session.
Fun fact: The vanilla video games SSX 3, SimCity 4 and Sims Bustin' Out from the base game also have separate clips for P1LOSE that differ from all others that come along - chances are that you never ever saw them! Now you can! And at the same time, experience just a little bit more realism for your Sims 2 game.
The Traits Version
I need to give this version an extra section because I really put some thought into it. In the Traits Version of this mod, your Sim's Traits will have an additional influence on their gaming skill:
- Losers and Technophobes will never be good gamers. One can't help it, the other just doesn't try.
- Geniuses will always be good gamers, but only if they're in a good mood. If their mood is below +30 (by default), they run the usual calculations.
- Computer Whizzes will always be good gamers when in a good mood, too. But if they woke up on the wrong side of their bed, then there is no more in-between. If a Computer Whiz is also Dramatic, Grumpy, Hot-Headed, Insane or Unstable, they will either they have the time of their life, or the worst losing streak of all time.
- Ambitious Sims and Perfectionists have an easier time honing their gaming skill, meaning they'll see the good clips earlier (250 instead of 500 Hobby points).
- Absent-Minded and Clumsy Sims have a harder time to git gud, meaning their Gaming enthusiasm needs to be a lot higher than other Sims in order to see the good clips (750 instead of 500 Hobby points).
- Lucky Sims will always get the good clip if they're a good gamer (instead of having a 20% chance to fail), and have a highly increased chance to get good gaming clips/animations if they're a bad gamer (default: 50%, as opposed to other Sims' 20%).
- Unlucky Sims will always get the bad clip if they're a bad gamer (instead of having a 20% chance to turn it around), and have a highly increased chance to get bad gaming clips/animations despite being a good gamer (default: 50%, as opposed to other Sims' 20%).
Requirements
Expansion Pack: FreeTime (standard/Traits version only).
The Hobby feature was introduced with FreeTime, so the mod will not work without this EP.
The Basegame version is Base Game-compatible because it uses a Sim's Logic Skill instead.
If you have the Super Collection on Mac, please get the Basegame version.
Ultimate Collection users are free to use either version.
The Traits version only also requires Easy Inventory Check in addition to FreeTime.
Tuning
New since 2023-10-10: You can tune a few things about the mod to your own preference! BCON 0x2000 "Tuning - Skill Issue" contains all tunable variables.
No. | Label | Description | Default Value |
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0x00 | Double Required Gaming Enthusiasm? / Logic Skill? | If set to 1, then the needed Gaming Enthusiasm or Logic Skill doubles, becoming minimum Level 5 (500 points). If set to 0, the minimum is between Level 2 and 3 (250 points). Values: 0 or 1 | 0x0001 (1) |
0x01 | Low Energy Penalty | If a Sim is very tired (Energy motive falls under -30), how much should their "Gaming skill" crash? Values: 0 to 1000 | 0x0064 (100) |
0x02 | Chance for Opposite Outcome | Chance in % that a Sim who would be a "good gamer" gets the bad clips and animations anyway, and vice versa | 0x0014 (20) |
0x03 (TRAITS ONLY) | Minimum Mood to be Always Good if Genius/ComWhiz | If a Sim has at least this Mood and one of these Traits, they will always be a good player. If their Mood is lower, the usual calculation is run. Values: -100 to 100 | 0x001E (30) |
0x04 (TRAITS ONLY) | Higher Chance for Opposite Outcome if Lucky/Unlucky | Chance in % for a Lucky Sim to get the good outcome despite bad skill, or an Unlucky Sim to get the bad outcome despite good skill | 0x0032 (50) |
Overrides
Resource name | Type name | Type | Group | Instance | Instance (high) |
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Player - Good Player? | Behaviour Function | 0x42484156 | 0x7F0B2AE7 | 0x00002007 | 0x00000000 |
New Resources
Resource name | Type name | Type | Group | Instance | Instance (high) |
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Tuning - Skill Issue | Behaviour Constants | 0x42484156 | 0x7F0B2AE7 | 0x00002000 | 0x00000000 |
Conflicts and Notes
Obviously, anything that overrides this particular function. No such mods are known to me, however.
Credits
Maxis and EA for creating Sims 2 in the first place
The Creators of SimPE and especially the BHAV and BCON plugins
Have fun and happy Simming!
~ LimeyYoshi
Filename | Type | Size |
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GoodPlayerRevamp.zip | zip | |
LimeyYoshi_GoodPlayerRevamp.package | package | 819 |
Filename | Type | Size |
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GoodPlayerRevamp-Basegame.zip | zip | |
LimeyYoshi_GoodPlayerRevamp-Basegame.package | package | 813 |
Filename | Type | Size |
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GoodPlayerRevamp-withTraits.zip | zip | |
LimeyYoshi_GoodPlayerRevamp-withTraits.package | package | 1481 |
Note from the Creator:
GoodPlayerRevamp.zip
| The standard version, which works with a Sim's Games Enthusiasm. Requires FreeTime.
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GoodPlayerRevamp-Basegame.zip
| The basegame / Mac-compatible version, which works with a Sim's Logic skill.
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36 downloads.
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GoodPlayerRevamp-withTraits.zip
| The standard version but enhanced with Trait support. Requires FreeTime and Easy Inventory Check.
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Uploaded: 7th Dec 2023, 810 Bytes.
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Install Instructions
1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.
2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.
3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
- Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
- Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
- Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
- Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
- Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
- For a full, complete guide to downloading complete with pictures and more information, see: Game Help: Downloading for Fracking Idiots.
- Custom content not showing up in the game? See: Game Help: Getting Custom Content to Show Up.
- If you don't have a Downloads folder, just make one. See instructions at: Game Help: No Downloads Folder.
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About Me
As my title suggests, I like wreaking havoc... but I also like providing useful bug fixes, features or new mechanics.
I make sure my mods can be enjoyed by as many players as possible, so I strive to make my mods as compatible with different game setups as I can. Mac players want to enjoy mods, too!
I love the language diversity we have in the world and so am always looking for human translators to provide translations to languages other than English.
I have been a childhood Sims 1 player but did not get to enjoy the newer games until my fiancée sparked my interest again. Starting with Sims 3, followed by 4, then 2. Nowadays, I choose to only play Sims 2 (and also Sims 3), because they're the zenith of the series in my Humble opinion. (...Get it? Humble? Rod? Haha...)
I prefer building houses over actually playing, and I have made my own custom world on Sims 3. Maybe I'll publish some of my Sims 3 works at some point...
My Sims 3 traits would be: Clumsy, Eco-Friendly, Frugal, Loner, Night Owl. (And a hidden Pyromaniac. Hehe.)
My pronouns are he/him, but to be fair I don't mind what you use to address me.
I am a little obsessed with the British way of spelling words.
I am an Aspie, diagnosed at the age of five, so I may show strange behaviour at times, and used to often jump at people with like-minded interests (such as a certain profile picture) to try and socialise with. I have this under better control now, but it is how I met my fiancée, back in 2012 on YouTube. Engaged since 26/07/2019. :luff:
Besides Sims, I also like, Pokémon (duh), Yoshi, Spyro, and Genshin Impact! (Nilou best girl~ :3)