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Surrogate Hack

by kestrellyn Posted 5th Jul 2021 at 2:08 AM - Updated 26th Aug 2021 at 1:19 AM by kestrellyn
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Update:
  • Renumbered some BHAVs so that it doesn't conflict with Chris Hatch's PregRel hack. Note that this doesn't fix the issue that that hack will cause surrogates' partners to get mad at them for "cheating". I don't really recommend using these together but at least there won't be errors now.
  • Hopefully made it so that the influence interaction won't push the social
  • New compatible version for Super Collection and other pre-Free Time configurations

This hack allows sims to have children via a surrogate.

Installation Instructions

Install exactly one file from each zip archive in the download. Read the rest of the description to find out which files to install. The hack package is the only one that should conflict with anything, and the only one that has to be loaded in a particular order.

Note that if you use Name the Father or Fairy Changelings, you will need to download the latest versions of those hacks for them to work properly with this installed. namethefatherhack is also included in this hack, so you should remove that package entirely.

The Social Interaction

The social interact is available at 30 LTR and appears as "Propose... Surrogacy" and is initiated by the sim who wishes to have a child using a surrogate to the potential surrogate. The other requirements for the social interaction to appear are:
  • The proposer must be playable. Note that things in the birth code rely on the proposer being either playable or dead; do not turn them into a townie in between making the proposal and the birth occurring, unexpected things may happen.
  • The surrogate must be playable (otherwise the pregnancy cannot advance)
  • The proposer and the surrogate are not related by blood (in-laws and step family are OK). If you use the extended family hack, you may want to get one of the +extendedfamily versions of the social plugin to include extended family under blood-related family. Found family is checked as well.
  • The proposer must be able to get the surrogate pregnant. As in Sperm Donors, this uses whatever check you have installed in your game, if you have a teen pregnancy hack, for example, you should be able to use the interaction with teens. However, once again, the only hack that changes which genders can get pregnant that this works with is the RCC, and if you have the RCC you should get one of the +RCC versions of the social plugin. This may also check things like the surrogate having room in their household, etc. You do need to have a hack that allows visiting playables to get pregnant through woohoo for this to work right for non-resident surrogates. The main hacks I know of that include this feature are the RCC and Lamare's Young Adult pregnancy hack, some teen pregnancy hacks may have this feature but I do not know of any for sure. If you have several pregnancy hacks, the one that loads last is the one that matters. If you don't have any other pregnancy hacks, Simler has created a hack that does only this called PregnancyCanWeGetPregnantMod, which can be downloaded here: https://modthesims.info/d/650724/ba...nancy-mods.html
  • The proposer must have at least 2000 simoleons

Whether or not the social interaction is accepted depends on a number of factors. This is the in-order list of checks that the game makes - the first one that passes determines the outcome:
  1. If the surrogate's STR to the proposer is less than 50, it is rejected
  2. If the surrogate's LTR to the proposer is 50 or greater, it is accepted
  3. If the surrogate's LTR to the proposer is less than 30, it is rejected
  4. If the surrogate is a family sim (primary or secondary) in red aspiration, it is rejected
  5. If the surrogate is a fortune sim (primary or secondary), it is accepted
  6. If the surrogate has less than 5000 simoleons, it is accepted
  7. If the surrogate is a family sim with less than three children of their own, it is rejected

If none of these checks pass, then the surrogate must approve (50+ STR, or 0+ LTR if family) of all of the proposer's significant others for the interaction to be accepted. A sim counts as a significant other if they have married/engaged/going steady flags with the proposer, or if the proposer is in love with them and they live on the same lot.

If the interaction is accepted, the proposer will pay the surrogate 2000 simoleons, the surrogate will become pregnant, and you will get a popup to choose the second parent of the baby (you can choose no one by cancelling the dialog), and the proposer and the other parent (if selected) will get custom happy memories. By default you can choose young adults, adults and elders as the other parent, if you want to also be able to choose teens, get the -teens version of the social object.

The Surrogate menu

Once the surrogate is pregnant, they will have a self-interaction menu called "Surrogate..." with a number of options:
  • Delete Surrogate Token - if you terminate the pregnancy with a hack, you can use this to delete the surrogate token so the next pregnancy won't be considered a surrogate pregnancy.
  • Status Report - tells you how long the surrogate has been pregnant for, who the biological parents will be, and who the actual parents will be.
  • Biological Parents - a submenu that allows you to select who the biological parents will be. The choices are between surrogate and proposer, proposer and second parent, or proposer and a random female townie (as if an egg donor was used). This option does require some townies of each gender in your neighborhood, if there are none you will get an error. The name of the townie chosen will be displayed in the status report, so if you don't like the one you got, you can change to some other option and then back to the random townie option to get a different random townie.

Birth

Two hours before the surrogate gives birth, the baby's parents, and any other people they have marriage/engagement/steady flags with will be summoned to the lot and you will get a dialog. They will not be summoned if it is too late at night. If the baby's parents are both already on the lot, no one will be summoned, even if there are other significant others who could come.

The hack includes the functionality of two other birth hacks: Baby Last Name Chooser and Birth Options, even for births that don't involve surrogacy. This means that you will get to choose which parent's last name the baby gets, and you will also get to choose which parent the baby lives with if they live on different lots, or which parent gets vacation if they live on the same lot and are both employed. (Note that the check for employment can be a little wonky and sometimes it will think unemployed sims who have never had a job or were made unemployed with the Sim Blender are employed. There's not a lot I can do about this, unfortunately. It should correctly identify all employed sims, and sims who have quit their jobs or been fired.) If the baby is going to live on a lot other than the one the surrogate lives on, it will disappear at this point (I know people wanted the parents to carry the baby off the lot, but this is apparently very hard to actually do). The baby will not immediately show up in the family portrait of the lot it was sent to until you have loaded the lot, and will probably appear floating in midair at first. If, by the time the baby is born, both parents are either dead or non-playable, you will get a dialog containing the baby's living relatives that are teen or older, and get to choose which one will take in the baby. Note that this only includes close family, even if you are using the extended family hack. If the baby has no living relatives, or you cancel the dialog, the surrogate will keep the baby, and will get a special memory. Otherwise, the surrogate will get a regular memory about having been a surrogate, which in most cases will be good, but will be a bad memory if the surrogate is a family sim who is either in red aspiration or has no children of their own.

Note that this hack can cause the baby to be teleported to university lot. This is not necessarily a problem if you have a hack that allows you to take the baby back to the main neighborhood after your sims graduate, and possibly a hack to allow the baby to age on campus. See Lamare's Young Adult maternity hack for hacks that do that. You do not necessarily need to install the hack to allow young adults to get pregnant.

Game Compatibility

This hack requires at least one EP that is OFB or later. If you have Apartment Life, get one of -AL versions of the hack, otherwise if you have Free Time, get one of -FT versions of the hack, otherwise get one of the versions that has neither of those.

Hack Compatibility

This requires a hack that allows visiting playables to get pregnant. Some that I know of are the RCC, Lamare's Young Adult pregnancy hack, or Simler's PregnancyCanWeGetPregnantMod.

The following are known conflicts/compatibilities:
  • Name the Father/Sperm Donors: namethefatherhack is Included, remove namethefatherhack and download the most recent version of the social plugin from MTS
  • Fairy Changelings: Compatible if fairly changelings loads last, but you must download the latest version of fairy changelings from MTS
  • Baby Personality: Separate Compatible Version, download surrogatehack+babypersonality (plus or minus -AL depending on whether or not you have AL) instead of surrogatehack and make it sure it loads after baby personality. However, if you also use fairy changelings, it does not matter which version of the hack you get, as long as the baby-personality-compatible version of fairy changelings loads last out of the three, they should all work. Note that with baby personality, children born to surrogates will have their personality always come from the surrogate and the proposer, regardless of which option you selected for the biological parents. There's nothing I can do about this without rewriting the baby personality hack
  • Baby Last Name Chooser: Included, remove Midge's file if you have it
  • Birth Options: Included, remove Midge's file if you have it
  • Triplets and Quads: Not Compatible at This Time
  • Chris Hatch's Hospital Mod: Most Likely Not Compatible
  • Chris Hatch's PregRel Mod: Compatible, but you will get unwanted behavior of people getting upset at surrogates thinking they are "cheating". I may make a patch to fix this at some point.


Archive: memorysurrogateparent.zip
File: memorysurrogateparent.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Arranged for a Surrogate

Description: I am so grateful some agreed to bear my child. I can't wait for the baby to be born!

Arranged for a Surrogate

Description: I am so grateful some agreed to bear my child. I can't wait for the baby to be born!

Archive: surrogatesocialobject.zip
File: surrogatesocialobject.package Object
soc-admire-admirer-accept

Description: Soc-admire-admiree-accept

File: surrogatesocialobject-teens.package Object
soc-admire-admirer-accept

Description: Soc-admire-admiree-accept

Archive: surrogatesocialplugin.zip
File: surrogatesocialplugin.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

File: surrogatesocialplugin+extendedfamily.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

File: surrogatesocialplugin+extendedfamily+RCC.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

File: surrogatesocialplugin+RCC.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

Archive: memorysurrogatebad.zip
File: memorysurrogatebad.package Object Hack/Game Mod Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss her...

Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss her...

File: memorysurrogatebad-genderneutral.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss them...

Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss them...

Archive: memorysurrogategood.zip
File: memorysurrogategood.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I'm so glad I could help my friend have a baby! And the money has helped as well.

Was a Surrogate

Description: I'm so glad I could help my friend have a baby! And the money has helped as well.

Archive: memorysurrogatekeptbaby.zip
File: memorysurrogatekeptbaby.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I was supposed to help my friend have a child, but no one was able to take in the baby at the time of the birth. I guess this is my child to raise now.

Was a Surrogate

Description: I was supposed to help my friend have a child, but no one was able to take in the baby at the time of the birth. I guess this is my child to raise now.

Archive: surrogatehack.zip
File: surrogatehack+babypersonality.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack+babypersonality-AL.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack-AL.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack+babypersonality-FT.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack-FT.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed



This is a multi-part download:


Install exactly one file from each zip archive.

Download files

Filename Size Downloads Date
surrogatehack.zip | Hack

Size: 51.9 KB · Downloads: 397 · 26th Aug 2021
51.9 KB 397 26th Aug 2021
surrogatesocialobject.zip | Social object

Size: 8.0 KB · Downloads: 320 · 14th Aug 2021
8.0 KB 320 14th Aug 2021
memorysurrogatekeptbaby.zip | Kept baby memory

Size: 4.0 KB · Downloads: 295 · 5th Jul 2021
4.0 KB 295 5th Jul 2021
memorysurrogategood.zip | Positive surrogate memory

Size: 3.9 KB · Downloads: 318 · 5th Jul 2021
3.9 KB 318 5th Jul 2021
memorysurrogatebad.zip | Negative surrogate memory

Size: 7.9 KB · Downloads: 283 · 5th Jul 2021
7.9 KB 283 5th Jul 2021
surrogatesocialplugin.zip | Social plugin

Size: 9.3 KB · Downloads: 317 · 5th Jul 2021
9.3 KB 317 5th Jul 2021
memorysurrogateparent.zip | Parent memory

Size: 3.9 KB · Downloads: 298 · 5th Jul 2021
3.9 KB 298 5th Jul 2021

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Archive: memorysurrogateparent.zip
File: memorysurrogateparent.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Arranged for a Surrogate

Description: I am so grateful some agreed to bear my child. I can't wait for the baby to be born!

Arranged for a Surrogate

Description: I am so grateful some agreed to bear my child. I can't wait for the baby to be born!

Archive: surrogatesocialobject.zip
File: surrogatesocialobject.package Object
soc-admire-admirer-accept

Description: Soc-admire-admiree-accept

File: surrogatesocialobject-teens.package Object
soc-admire-admirer-accept

Description: Soc-admire-admiree-accept

Archive: surrogatesocialplugin.zip
File: surrogatesocialplugin.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

File: surrogatesocialplugin+extendedfamily.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

File: surrogatesocialplugin+extendedfamily+RCC.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

File: surrogatesocialplugin+RCC.package Object Unknown
Propose. . . /Surrogacy

Description: Surrogate.../Status Report

Archive: memorysurrogatebad.zip
File: memorysurrogatebad.package Object Hack/Game Mod Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss her...

Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss her...

File: memorysurrogatebad-genderneutral.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss them...

Was a Surrogate

Description: I am glad I could help my friend have a child, but it was so hard to give the baby up. I will always miss them...

Archive: memorysurrogategood.zip
File: memorysurrogategood.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I'm so glad I could help my friend have a baby! And the money has helped as well.

Was a Surrogate

Description: I'm so glad I could help my friend have a baby! And the money has helped as well.

Archive: memorysurrogatekeptbaby.zip
File: memorysurrogatekeptbaby.package Career/Major Unknown

Title: Was a Surrogate

Description: I was supposed to help my friend have a child, but no one was able to take in the baby at the time of the birth. I guess this is my child to raise now.

Was a Surrogate

Description: I was supposed to help my friend have a child, but no one was able to take in the baby at the time of the birth. I guess this is my child to raise now.

Archive: surrogatehack.zip
File: surrogatehack+babypersonality.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack+babypersonality-AL.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack-AL.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack+babypersonality-FT.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

File: surrogatehack-FT.package Object Hack/Game Mod

Title: $Local: 0

Description: Failed

 
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